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   Message 99,623 of 99,700   
   Donald Willis to Donald Willis   
   Hank throws in the towel (implicitly) re   
   19 Feb 24 08:58:39   
   
   From: willisdonald824@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 3:02:03 PM UTC-8, Donald Willis wrote:   
   > On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 9:01:40 PM UTC-8, Hank Sienzant wrote:    
   > > So you eliminated Whaley simply misspeaking and saying “Neches” when   
   he meant “Neely” exactly how?    
   > >    
   > > As you admit,    
   > >    
   > > 1. Whaley testified ‘he dropped Oswald off at "Neches and North   
   Beckley”. ‘    
   > >    
   > > *AND*    
   > >    
   > > 2. “Neches and Beckley did not actually intersect”.    
   > >    
   > > *AND*    
   > >    
   > > 3. “his 11/22/63 affidavit says the correct intersection was the 500   
   block of North Beckley.”    
   > >    
   > > So, me, being a reasonable person and all that that entails, when I put   
   all that together, I conclude Whaley simply mis-spoke, and said “Neches”   
   when he meant “Neely”.   
   > In his 4/8/63 testimony, Whaley says that he let Oswald out at the *700*   
   block:    
   >    
   > Mr. WHALEY. I went right up on Beckley headed toward the 500 block.    
   > Mr. BELIN. Then what happened?    
   > Mr. WHALEY. When I got to Beckley almost to the intersection of Beckley    
   > and Neely, he said, “This will do right here,” and I pulled up to the   
   curb.    
   > Mr. BELIN. Was that the 500 block of North Beckley?    
   > Mr. WHALEY. No, sir ; that was the 700 block.    
   > Mr. BELIN. You let him out not at the 5oo block but the 700 block of North    
   > Beckley?    
   > Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. (p429)    
   >    
   > So here he overrides the "500" of his affidavit. (There will be more   
   overrides in his testimony.) Now, let's see if Counsel Ball can clear this all   
   up:    
   >    
   > Mr. BALL. Here is Neches right here. (on CE 371)    
   > Mr. WHALEY. Let me see where Neches is, is that right? Yes, that is it.    
   > This is the intersection right there.    
   > Mr. BALL. We put an "X" there.    
   > Mr. WHALEY. That is where he got off.    
   > Mr. BALL. That is where you dropped your passenger, is that right?    
   > Mr. WHALEY. That is--as far as I can see that is Neches.    
   > Mr. BALL. That is Neches, that is Beckley.    
   > Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir; that is right, because that is the 500 block of North   
   Beckley.    
   >    
   > So Ball points out Neches on the map, and Whaley agrees, "Yes, that is it",   
   and he thinks that's an intersection of Neches and Beckley and that it's the   
   500 block. The online reproductions of 371 which I've seen don't seem to have   
   an "X" on them. So we    
   have to trust Ball when he says "Here is Neches right here" and trust Whaley   
   when he agrees and says "Yes, that is it. This is the intersection right   
   there," where Ball points out Neches.    
   >    
   > Either we trust Ball and Whaley here, or conclude that neither of them can   
   read a map. Or that Ball lied when he said "Here is Neches". Or that they are   
   both misreading and misspeaking. Yes, Ball clears it all up.    
   >    
   > I'll clear it all up: Neches near Beckley.    
   >    
   > dcw   
   > >    
   > > Big deal.    
   > >    
   > > And since the revolver in evidence matches the shells in evidence, and the   
   revolver in evidence is traceable to Oswald, and numerous witnesses at the   
   scene said the gunman discarded the shells from his handgun, tossing them   
   aside as he walked away    
   from the crime scene, and since Oswald punched McDonald and drew his handgun   
   on him, and since numerous witnesses picked Oswald out of lineups as the   
   gunman (stuff you don't admit, but an even bigger deal, as this is the kind of   
   stuff a prosecutor takes    
   to trial).    
      
   Maybe I'll get to this in the next few days, after we're done with the actual   
   subject here.   
      
   dcw   
   > >    
   > > I sometimes wonder if you're just trolling here, mocking conspiracy   
   “logic” by ignoring the reasonable conclusion and deliberately reaching   
   the most far-fetched conclusion possible.    
   > >    
   > > But then I remember folks like Mark Lane, Sylvia Meagher, and Harold   
   Weisberg actually published books with conclusions at least as far-fetched as   
   yours.    
   > >    
   > > > dcw    
   > >    
   > > Hank   
      
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