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   Message 99,645 of 99,700   
   Hank Sienzant to Donald Willis   
   Re: Whaley was right: Neches and Beckley   
   20 Feb 24 15:48:23   
   
   From: hsienzant@aol.com   
      
   On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 5:33:52 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:   
   > Whaley was right: Neches and Beckley do intersect    
   >    
   > As I have noted, the online reproduction of CE 371 is poor. But with the aid   
   of an old-fashioned fold-up map and Google Maps, I was able to spot the "X" on   
   371 which Ball and Whaley said was where the latter left Oswald off in Oak   
   Cliff. It is centered    
   just above and a bit west of the intersection where Zang, Beckley, and El   
   Dorado meet. That "X" is far from Neely, but near Neches. In fact, El Dorado   
   is really a continuation of Neches, and it does intersect Beckley. And it's a   
   short street, only three    
   blocks long; Neches is 11 blocks long. Oswald may not have even realized that,   
   going east, Neches becomes El Dorado two blocks before Beckley. Oswald, then,   
   must have re-directed Whaley, en route, with an instruction like "Neches near   
   Beckley", and    
   Whaley dropped him off at Beckley and El Dorado, the extension of Neches.   
   ("This will do fine.") And when Whaley says, of the "X" spot, with some   
   certainty, "This is the intersection right there", he must be going by--not   
   numbers or street names--but by    
   the distinctive configuration of the intersection: Beckley is strictly   
   north/south, but Zang comes in to Beckley at like a 30-degree angle, and El   
   Dorado/Neches goes out from Beckley at about the same angle. Whaley recognized   
   that particular intersection.   
    (By contrast, the Beckley/Neely intersection is strictly north-   
   outh/east-west. *Not* the intersection.) Whaley was confused by many things,   
   but not by "Neches". (For instance, it's apparently "Zang", not "Zangs", as   
   Whaley had it.)    
   >    
   > dcw   
      
   Accepting all that for the sake of argument, how does that:   
   A. Come close to disproving Oswald shot Tippit?    
   B. Come close to explaining how Oswald rode the bus all the way to near his   
   rooming house? A few months ago, you were arguing Oswald never took the cab,   
   and he rode the bus all the way into Oak Cliff. Now you're agreeing the   
   Commission got the cab ride    
   right, but merely got where Oswald departed that cab wrong.   
   C. What about the bus ride? Are you conceding Oswald rode the bus a few   
   blocks, then departed it when it got stuck in traffic? Or are you going to   
   argue Oswald was never on the bus, after being so certain a few months ago   
   that he stayed on it far longer    
   than the Commission concluded?   
      
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