XPost: ie.politics, uk.politics.misc, alt.politics.british   
   XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism   
   From: banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk   
      
   In article <1127584198.437180.10650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Dave   
    writes   
      
   >Howard9 wrote:   
   >> In article ,   
   >> banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk says...   
   >> > UK government monkey Charles Clarke is saying that the authorities   
   >> > propose to outlaw the 'celebration' of any 'terrorist' act committed in   
   >> > the past 20 years. Apparently they are also preparing a list of   
   >> > 'selected' acts from longer ago than that, which it will also become a   
   >> > criminal offence to 'glorify'.   
   >>   
   >> Excellent news.  We should be bringing in the same laws. Brilliant !!   
   >> >   
   >> > The plan to draw up a list of historical events that people can be   
   >> > prosecuted for celebrating is a sign of a leader losing his grip   
   >>   
   >> It's an excellent decision and I hope they have very stiff penalties.   
   >>   
   >> --   
   >> Howard   
   >Yes, thought crime as real crime.   
   >   
   >I wonder when it will become illegal for lawyers to defend terrorists.   
   >Defending the indefensible should not be tolerated.   
      
   Yep. With the exact form of the new rule yet to be clear. One   
   possibility for the near future is that they might penalise lawyers who   
   take 'undesirable' cases pro bono. They did this in the civil case of   
   'Lord' Aldington versus 'Count' Nikolai Tolstoy in the 1990s. Government   
   officials helped Aldington by sending official documents to him by taxi,   
   and by pretending to 'lose' documents that would help Tolstoy - e.g.   
   documents containing evidence of Aldington's war crimes. And, in the   
   other part of the pincer movement, the judiciary awarded costs against   
   Tolstoy's lawyers. Literally against the lawyers. This was in addition   
   to the costs awarded against their client. As punishment for their   
   naughtiness in representing him, Tolstoy's lawyers were ordered to pay   
   60% of Aldington's costs. And all because Tolstoy called Aldington a war   
   criminal, which he certainly was. It's all mafia.   
      
   Some info at:    
      
   On the other hand, they might just do whatever the US authorities tell   
   them to do. Who knows, if floods happen again in the near   
   future...events might be very different from what they were in Carlisle   
   in January. Let's see how much they big up the so-called 'winter crisis'   
   in the coming months...   
      
   --   
   banana     "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you   
               give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to   
               Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the   
               rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)