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   banana to fictional@email.com   
   Re: Will celebrating the Molly Maguires    
   27 Sep 05 13:36:07   
   
   XPost: ie.politics, uk.politics.misc, alt.politics.british   
   XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism   
   From: banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk   
      
   In article , Howard9   
    writes   
      
   >In article <1X_Ze.29069$h02.11948@tornado.texas.rr.com>,   
   >frankfmatthews@houston.rr.com says...   
      
   >> Howard9 wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > In article ,   
   >> > banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk says...   
      
      
      
   >Basic English also appears to pass you by.  The legislation is about   
   >glorification, not thoughts or dubious and politically motivated   
   >revisionist history heads.   
      
   From:   
      
   :   
      
      
   ***BEGIN EXTRACT***   
      
   1 Encouragement of terrorism   
      
   (1) A person commits an offence if he -   
      
   (a) publishes a statement or causes another to publish a statement on   
   his behalf; and   
      
   (b) at the time he does so, knows or believes, or has reasonable grounds   
   for believing, that members of the public to whom the statement is or is   
   to be  published  are  likely  to  understand  it  as  a  direct  or   
   indirect encouragement or other inducement to the commission,   
   preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism or Convention offences.   
      
   (2) For the purposes of this section the question what it would be   
   reasonable to believe about how members of the public will understand a   
   statement must be determined having regard both -   
      
   (a) to the contents of the statement as a whole; and   
      
   (b) to the circumstances and manner in which it is or is to be   
   published.   
      
   (3) It is irrelevant for the purposes of subsection (1) -   
      
   (a) whether the statement is likely to be understood as an encouragement   
   or other inducement to the commission, preparation or instigation of   
   one or more particular acts of terrorism or Convention offences, of acts   
   of terrorism or Convention offences of a particular description or of   
   acts of terrorism or Convention offences generally; and   
      
   (b) whether any person is in fact encouraged or induced by the statement   
   to commit, prepare or instigate any such act or offence.   
      
   (4) In proceedings against a person for an offence under this section it   
   is a defence for him to show.   
      
   (a) that he published the statement in respect of which he is charged,   
   or caused  it  to  be  published,  in  the  course  of  providing  a   
   service electronically;   
      
   (b) that, in publishing it or causing it to be published, he acted on   
   behalf of another, or did no more than make available a facility giving   
   access to the statement;   
      
   (c) that the  statement neither  expressed his views nor  had his   
   endorsement; and   
      
   (d) that it was clear, in all the circumstances, that it did not.   
      
   (5) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable -   
      
   (a) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not   
   exceeding 7 years or to a fine, or to both;   
      
   (b) on summary conviction in England and Wales, to imprisonment for a   
   term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory   
   maximum, or to both;   
      
   (c) on  summary  conviction  in  Scotland  or  Northern  Ireland,  to   
   imprisonment  for  a  term  not  exceeding  6  months  or  to  a  fine   
   not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both.   
      
   (6) In relation to an offence committed before the commencement of   
   section 154(1) of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 (c. 44), the reference   
   in subsection (5)(b) to 12 months is to be read as a reference to 6   
   months.   
      
   2 Glorification of terrorism etc.   
      
   (1) A person commits an offence if -   
      
   (a) he publishes a statement or causes another to publish a statement on   
   his behalf;   
      
   (b) the statement glorifies, exalts or celebrates the commission,   
   preparation or instigation (whether in the past, in the future or   
   generally) of acts of terrorism; and   
      
   (c) the circumstances and  manner of  the  statement.s  publication   
   (taken together  with  its  contents)  are  such  that  it  would  be   
   reasonable  for members  of  the  public  to  whom  it  is  published   
   to  assume  that  the statement expresses the views of that person or   
   has his endorsement.   
      
   (2) It is irrelevant  for the purposes of  subsection  (1)  whether   
   what  is  glorified, exalted or celebrated is the commission,   
   preparation or instigation of one or more particular acts of terrorism,   
   of acts of terrorism of a particular description or of acts of terrorism   
   generally.   
      
   (3) A person is guilty of an offence under this section in respect of a   
   statement glorifying,  exalting  or  celebrating  anything  occurring   
   more  than  20  years before the publication of the statement only if   
   the statement relates, whether directly or indirectly, to conduct or   
   events specified for the purposes of this section by order made by the   
   Secretary of State.   
      
   (4) The power of the Secretary of State to make an order under   
   subsection (3) shall be exercisable by statutory instrument subject to   
   annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament.   
      
   (5) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable.   
      
   (a) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not   
   exceeding 5 years or to a fine, or to both;   
      
   (b) on summary conviction in England and Wales, to imprisonment for a   
   term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory   
   maximum, or to both;   
      
   (c) on  summary  conviction  in  Scotland  or  Northern  Ireland,  to   
   imprisonment  for  a  term  not  exceeding  6  months  or  to  a  fine   
   not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both.   
      
   (6) In relation to an offence committed before the commencement of   
   section 154(1) of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 (c. 44), the reference   
   in subsection (5)(b) to 12 months is to be read as a reference to 6   
   months.   
      
      
      
   17 Grounds of proscription   
      
   In section 3 of the Terrorism Act 2000  (proscription  of   
   organisations),  after subsection (5) insert -   
      
   "(5A) The cases in which an organisation promotes or encourages   
   terrorism for the purposes of subsection (5)(c) include any case in   
   which activities of the organisation-   
      
   (a) include the glorification, exaltation  or  celebration of the   
   commission, preparation or instigation (whether in the past, in   
   the future or generally) of acts of terrorism; or   
      
   (b) are carried out in a manner that ensures that the organisation is   
   associated  with  statements  glorifying,  exalting  or  celebrating   
   the commission, preparation or instigation of such acts.   
      
   (5B) The  reference  in  subsection  (5A)  to  statements  is  a   
   reference  to communications  of  any  description,  including   
   communications without words consisting of sounds or images or both."   
      
   ***END EXTRACT***   
      
   --   
   banana     "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you   
               give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to   
               Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the   
               rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)   
      
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