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   XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism   
   From: banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk   
      
   In article , Timothy Murphy   
    writes   
      
   >Chris X wrote:   
      
   >>Another thick yank willingly applauds his "government" as it takes   
   >>away the right to free speech.   
      
   >The "right to free speech" is severely limited everywhere.   
   >You do not have the right to shout "Fire! Fire!" in a crowded theatre,   
   >and you should not have the right to encourage people to commit murder.   
      
   People do not have either of these rights at the moment. Incitement to   
   murder is a serious criminal offence. Believing it should remain so does   
   not justify supporting this bill.   
      
   For the record, I understand that the reference to 'shouting "Fire!" in   
   a crowded theatre' comes from a US court ruling against the socialist   
   Charles Schenk. Schenk was arrested in 1917, prosecuted under the   
   'Espionage Act', found guilty, and jailed. His 'crime'? HANDING OUT   
   LEAFLETS AGAINST THE WAR AND THE DRAFT.   
      
   In other words, he was kidnapped and held prisoner for DISCOURAGING   
   murder.   
      
      
      
      
      
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   banana     "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you   
               give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to   
               Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the   
               rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)   
      
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