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   From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de   
      
   In article , Anthony Marsh    
   writes:   
      
   > > Consider the following: people have a look at what you have to say,   
   > > determine that you are a crackpot, and ignore you in the future.  Take   
   > > myself as an example: I'm definitely a socialist by any reasonable   
   > > definition of the word, and don't necessarily disagree with your goals,   
   > > but the means to the end are completely unrealistic.  Not only does the   
   > > end not (necessarily) justify the means, but the end certainly does not   
   > > create the means, nor magically enable completely unrealistic means to   
   > > work.   
   > >   
   >   
   > What type of socialist? A National Socialist?   
      
   I said "any reasonable definition".  Do I detect some racism on your   
   part?   
      
   > > This reminds me of Ché Guevara landing in South America with something   
   > > like less than 30 guys, hoping that the oppressed millions would rally   
   > > around them.  He was dead shortly later.  The next time so much naiveté   
   > > was expressed was when George W. Bush predicted that Iraqis would rally   
   > > around the liberating U.S. troops.  After that, the next time so much   
   > > naiveté was expressed was your claim that Galaxia will lead the World   
   > > Socialist Revolution.   
   >   
   > Well, Che did not die of natural causes. He was assassinated by the CIA.   
      
   Yes, but if the oppressed millions had rallied around him, he wouldn't   
   have been.   
      
   > Oh, I see. So your theory is that the only way to defeat the system is   
   > to sell out to the system?   
      
   No.  My theory is merely that Socialist Steve has done NOTHING to   
   advance the causes he claims to support, and has probably done more harm   
   than good.   
      
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