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   From: amarsh@quik.com   
      
   Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:   
      
   > In article , Anthony Marsh    
   > writes:   
   >   
   >   
   >>>Consider the following: people have a look at what you have to say,   
   >>>determine that you are a crackpot, and ignore you in the future.  Take   
   >>>myself as an example: I'm definitely a socialist by any reasonable   
   >>>definition of the word, and don't necessarily disagree with your goals,   
   >>>but the means to the end are completely unrealistic.  Not only does the   
   >>>end not (necessarily) justify the means, but the end certainly does not   
   >>>create the means, nor magically enable completely unrealistic means to   
   >>>work.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>What type of socialist? A National Socialist?   
   >   
   >   
   > I said "any reasonable definition".  Do I detect some racism on your   
   > part?   
   >   
      
   Well, there are many types of socialists and you did not specify. I have   
   to assume that you are British.   
      
   >   
   >>>This reminds me of Ché Guevara landing in South America with something   
   >>>like less than 30 guys, hoping that the oppressed millions would rally   
   >>>around them.  He was dead shortly later.  The next time so much naiveté   
   >>>was expressed was when George W. Bush predicted that Iraqis would rally   
   >>>around the liberating U.S. troops.  After that, the next time so much   
   >>>naiveté was expressed was your claim that Galaxia will lead the World   
   >>>Socialist Revolution.   
   >>   
   >>Well, Che did not die of natural causes. He was assassinated by the CIA.   
   >   
   >   
   > Yes, but if the oppressed millions had rallied around him, he wouldn't   
   > have been.   
   >   
      
   Of course he would. Millions of oppresses rallied around Allende.   
      
   >   
   >>Oh, I see. So your theory is that the only way to defeat the system is   
   >>to sell out to the system?   
   >   
   >   
   > No.  My theory is merely that Socialist Steve has done NOTHING to   
   > advance the causes he claims to support, and has probably done more harm   
   > than good.   
   >   
      
      
   You mean he hasn't yet assassinated anyone?   
      
      
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   Anthony Marsh   
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