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   Take yer trollfest off the AI group ya twits. The thread is functionally    
   over anyway by Godwin's law.   
      
    On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Anthony Marsh wrote:   
      
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   > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:   
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   >> In article , Anthony Marsh    
   >> writes:    
   >>    
   >>>> Consider the following: people have a look at what you have to say,    
   >>>> determine that you are a crackpot, and ignore you in the future. Take    
   >>>> myself as an example: I'm definitely a socialist by any reasonable    
   >>>> definition of the word, and don't necessarily disagree with your goals,    
   >>>> but the means to the end are completely unrealistic. Not only does the    
   >>>> end not (necessarily) justify the means, but the end certainly does not    
   >>>> create the means, nor magically enable completely unrealistic means to    
   >>>> work.   
   >>>>    
   >>>    
   >>> What type of socialist? A National Socialist?   
   >>    
   >>    
   >> I said "any reasonable definition". Do I detect some racism on your part?   
   >>    
   >   
   > Well, there are many types of socialists and you did not specify. I have to    
   > assume that you are British.   
   >   
   >>    
   >>>> This reminds me of Ché Guevara landing in South America with something    
   >>>> like less than 30 guys, hoping that the oppressed millions would rally    
   >>>> around them. He was dead shortly later. The next time so much naiveté    
   >>>> was expressed was when George W. Bush predicted that Iraqis would rally    
   >>>> around the liberating U.S. troops. After that, the next time so much    
   >>>> naiveté was expressed was your claim that Galaxia will lead the World    
   >>>> Socialist Revolution.   
   >>>    
   >>> Well, Che did not die of natural causes. He was assassinated by the CIA.    
   >>    
   >>    
   >> Yes, but if the oppressed millions had rallied around him, he wouldn't have    
   >> been.   
   >>    
   >   
   > Of course he would. Millions of oppresses rallied around Allende.   
   >   
   >>    
   >>> Oh, I see. So your theory is that the only way to defeat the system is to    
   >>> sell out to the system?   
   >>    
   >>    
   >> No. My theory is merely that Socialist Steve has done NOTHING to advance    
   >> the causes he claims to support, and has probably done more harm than good.   
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   >   
   > You mean he hasn't yet assassinated anyone?   
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