home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   alt.conspiracy.princess-diana      What really happened to Lady Di...      10,071 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 8,449 of 10,071   
   oO to All   
   The Americans Are Coming! Democracy As C   
   18 Dec 05 14:49:36   
   
   XPost: uk.politics.misc, alt.politics.british, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: alt.conspiracy.new-world-order, alt.america, alt.conspira   
   y.america-at-war   
   XPost: us.politics   
   From: oO@oO.com   
      
         The Americans Are Coming!   
         Democracy As Cooperation Between Secret Services   
      
         by Andrej Grubacic; December 16, 2005   
      
     On the eve of  Condoleeza Rice's visit to Romania, the foreign minister of   
   that country was in a state of great emotion, almost in tears, as he   
   emphasized the global and historical significance of the visit in lyrical   
   terms: "That which our grandparents and parents have been waiting for for 60   
   years, and which hundreds of prisoners hoped for back in the time of   
   communism, is now happening: the Americans are coming!"   
      
     And  they have indeed arrived.   
      
     It looked like an imitation of Guantanamo, recalls Alvaro Gil Robles, the   
   Human Rights Commissioner for the Council of Europe. In the largest military   
   base in the Balkans and in Europe, camp Bondsteel in Kosovo, Robles saw   
   between 15 and 20 prisoners. All of them were dressed in  orange suits. An   
   american soldier who was on the base told him that the prisoners had been   
   sent from Guantanamo to Kosovo. The  visit of the Human Rights Commissioner   
   Robles to Bondsteel,  that "little Guantanamo," as he called it in his   
   report, took place three years ago. The report, however, remained almost   
   unnoticed until a few weeks ago, when the CIA's secret prisons in Eastern   
   Europe became international news. Since then in the mainstream European   
   press there has been talk not only of Bondsteel but also of Tuzla and other   
   places in Bosnia-Herzegovina. The spokesman of the American forces in Kosovo   
   rebuffed such charges, saying "We have no secret prisons here." Robles does   
   not deny this. Because, as he says, the prison was - public. In an interview   
   given to the magazine  Der Spiegel  he says, "There was no attempt to hide   
   anything or hush anything up. Everyone knew what was going on in Camp   
   Bondsteel." Nice.   
      
     This has been confirmed by The Red Cross. This year the Red Cross has made   
   only one inspection of the prison at Bondsteel. Over the course of 2002,   
   however, the organization had made all of 14 visits to Bondsteel. The Red   
   Cross did not publish the results of the prison inspections. But, as the   
   spokesman of the Red Cross has said, "We can start with the fact that our   
   team saw what Robles saw at Bondsteel."   
      
     What, exactly, did Robles see? In the  interview cited above he says that   
   he really did see prisoners over there who were in a situation "which you   
   would absolutely recognize from photographs of Guantanamo... prisoners were   
   housed in little wooden huts, some individually, some in pairs or threes.   
   Each hut was surrounded by barbed wire. Guards were patrolling between them.   
   Around all of this was a high wall with watchtowers... At the time of my   
   visist there were 15 prisoners. Most of them were Kosovo Albanians or Serbs,   
   and there were four or five North Africans. Some of them wore beards and   
   read the Koran...Because these people had been arrested by the army they had   
   not had any recourse to the judicial system. They had no lawyers... I wrote   
   in my report: this  is no longer acceptable. We must introduce democratic   
   standards, based on the rule of law." Courageous. But where is this   
   Bondsteel?   
      
     Camp Bondsteel is situated in the Balkans, that "most savage and least   
   stable corner of Europe" (The Economist), close to the small Kosovo town of   
   Urosevac. Let's be reminded that Kosovo was liberated by NATO troops in a   
   humanitarian operation which "forced the Serbs to reject a regime of   
   genocide and domination" (Financial Times) and which caused 1800 civilian   
   casualties along the way. The liberators' first humanitarian gift to the   
   local population was the construction of a base that is considered the   
   largest  US military base built on foreign soil since the Vietnam war. It   
   covers over 320 hectares of land. About 4000 American soldiers live there;   
   they enjoy the use of a library, news kiosk, a beauty salon, a Burger King   
   and a few churches. On November 29th a darts tournament was held there.   
      
     This military base is a symbol of American humanitarian interests in the   
   Balkans, "Europe's last dirty backyard" (The Economist). It is situated   
   directly over the future oil and gas lines which, according to plan, ought   
   to lead from the Bulgarian port Burgas - now an American base in which it is   
   suspected  "terrorist interrogations" of the not-so-legal variety have also   
   taken place - through Macedonia and Kosovo, all the way to Valona on the   
   Albanian Adriatic coastline. The study for this plan was made by the company   
   Halliburton formerly run by the American vice president Dick Cheney, which -   
   surprise, surprise - also built Camp Bondsteel.   
      
     So it is here in  liberated Kosovo - whose independence the US government   
   insists on  for unknown reasons  - that, according to Robles and other   
   witnesses, one of the "illegal" prisons can be found --  in point of fact   
   CIA prisons for "humanitarian interrogations."  This, together with   
   hypotheses about or evidence for  flights run by the American secret   
   service, make for breaking news in the  European press today .   
      
     It is very likely that camp Bondsteel isn't the only site for torture   
   ("humanitarian interrogation") in the former Yugoslavia. According to the   
   magazine Neues Deutchland, soon after the NATO humanitarian troops liberated   
   Bosnia-Herzegovina from it's own citizens, rumors began to circulate that   
   American soldiers are interrogating prisoners from "Arab states" - those   
   who, with American aid, had come to Bosnia to fight on the side of the   
   Bosnian muslims -  imprisoning them and, if needs be, allowing them to   
   disappear. The sources of the German paper warn of the significance of the   
   American camp next to the town of Tuzla which provided a sort of model for   
   the construction of Bondsteel in Kosovo. The camp in Tuzla is logistically   
   better connected than the one in Kosovo.  For it is here that American   
   aircraft of the type "Boeing 737" which the CIA uses to transport prisoners   
   can make a landing. It is not certain whether some of the American planes of   
   the type "Hercules" or the "C-17" transporters which fly into and out of   
   Bosnia on a daily basis also carry within them the prisoners of the new   
   global democracy.   
      
     It's worth recalling that during the nineties  a decision was made within   
   American intelligence circles to form a special national intelligence team -   
   NIST.  In addition to CIA members, it contains specialists of the Pentagon's   
   secret service DIA, NSA and NIMA. NIST is in Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Kenya,   
   Israel, Zaire, as well as in different regions of the Balkans that are under   
   American control. Thus in Tuzla there exists a unique bureau for cooperation   
   of the American services. In Tuzla there is also a rather long runway which   
      
   [continued in next message]   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca