From: banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk   
      
   In article <5ecrf.16312$q4.5025@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,   
   "Trevjon"    
      
   >"banana"  wrote in message   
   >news:vmhzxWA3Q9qDFww1@borve.demon.co.uk...   
      
   >> Do you think it was an accident then?   
      
   >Depends upon your semantics, and how you interpret "accident".   
      
   >Could it have been avoided? Yes. Was it handled well afterwards? No.   
      
   These are completely different questions from 'do you think it was an   
   accident?' A person can answer Yes/No, No/No, Yes/Yes, or No/Yes,   
   without saying anything about whether they think it was an accident or   
   murder.   
      
   >Could you "blame" someone for it?  Yes, Dodi for a start, for his   
   >stupid ideas, and his fixation with avoiding the paparazzi.   
      
   We've discussed this before, and I know it's your view that they were   
   headed somewhere other than the apartment near the Champs Elysées, which   
   apartment was known (including by Dodi Fayed's security) to be covered   
   by paps already.   
      
   In your view, how did anything Dodi Fayed did contribute to the crashing   
   of the car? Actions, not 'ideas' or 'fixations'.   
      
   >Is there confusion and conflicting witness reports concerning the   
   >incident?  Yes, but that is why most major incidents have Inquries   
   >afterwards, so the conflicting statements can be examined. This   
   >incident is not unique in people having "seen" and experienced   
   >different things.   
      
   Quite true, but not at all an answer to the question!   
      
   >Was it a conspiracy?   I don't think so, and until there is some   
   >compelling evidence to PROVE otherwise, then I will be left to the   
   >conclusion that is was an "accident".   
      
   Why? You are not on a jury trying someone. The SIS Director of   
   Operations did not explain to Hervé Stephan what he was or was not doing   
   in Paris. Why assume that absence of a tape of his telling an Increment   
   team 'go go go!' means he's innocent? What circumstantial evidence might   
   you find compelling?   
      
   >A few half baked and contradictory "theories", using half-truths,   
   >accusations, and downright lies, do not lead one to conclude that it   
   >was anything but an "accident".   
      
   !!! How about the highly-organised foul play that is pointed to by the   
   so-called 'lack of identification' and 'disappearance' of the Fiat Uno?   
      
   Re. lies, I might mention lies such as that the car hit a pillar at   
   125mph.   
      
   But, back to semantics. If it depends on semantics, let's sort them   
   out...   
      
   How likely do you think it is that deliberate foul play, designed to   
   cause injury or death, caused, or contributed to, the crashing of the   
   car?   
      
   Regards,   
      
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