XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.people.health, uk.current-events.general   
   From: banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk   
      
   In article , Stephen Glynn   
    writes   
      
   >banana wrote:   
   >> In article <1137940101.385688.14050@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Mel   
   >> Rowing  writes   
      
   >>>steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:27:46 +0000, banana   
   >>>> wrote:   
      
      
      
   >>>I think this to be the real reason as to why they are banned in   
   >>>hospitals. Can you imagine being in a cublcle with three perfect   
   >>>strangers one or more of whom is a phone junkie?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I don't think it's the real reason at all. If it were, why would   
   >> 'health' authorities tell the lie that it's for a different reason? It's   
   >> to isolate people.   
      
   >Why do you say hospitals want to isolate people (other than, at times,   
   >for medical reasons, of course)?   
      
   It's very much the patient experiencing the 'system', and those who are   
   officials in the system, whether medics, nurses, or bureaucrats, acting   
   in a way that's exactly opposite to the way you would expect another   
   human being to act who just honestly wants to help, the way you or I   
   might help an elderly lady who has fallen over, for example.   
      
   >If you're looking for an ulterior   
   >motive, I'd have thought that forcing people to use the hospital   
   >payphones was more plausible, though I agree with other posters that, if   
   >they don't actually interfere with equipment, then it's because they'd   
   >be a bloody nuisance to other patients.   
      
   So is waiting a year for an operation...   
      
   >If I were in hospital feeling   
   >ill and trying to sleep, I wouldn't want waking up every ten minutes or   
   >so by other patients' mobile phones going off morning, noon and night.   
      
   I quite agree. But there could easily be 'Please be considerate'   
   signs...   
      
   There are other times in hospitals though where use wouldn't harm   
   anyone, e.g. if you are in a casualty waiting room, ringing home to say   
   you've delivered someone to hospital safely, or to say 'they told me it   
   might be four hours before they see him, because they've got to stand   
   around in white coats gathered round a computer', or from a corridor to   
   say 'it's a boy', or whatever. People just aren't treated like adults,   
   and this fits in so well with the rest of their experience in the   
   'health' system.   
      
   --   
   banana     "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you   
               give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to   
               Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the   
               rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)   
      
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