XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.people.health, uk.current-events.general   
   From: banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk   
      
   In article <1138119626.400844.29050@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,   
   Ginfiz  writes   
      
   >As a hospital health and safety rep with access to all manner of data I   
   >can say it is not a lie   
      
   Oh yes it is.   
      
   Clue: when someone starts with "As a *******", they're usually talking   
   shit.   
      
   >-actually there was a case -Sited by the MDA (   
   >medical devices agency- now MHRA )   
      
   Ooooooh! And who the fuck do you think owns them?   
      
   >where a patient was given higher   
   >dose of medication through a pump when someone nearby was using a   
   >mobile- this is what began a blanket ban on mobiles in hospitals.   
      
   Hmm, you'd have thought they'd be able to test hypotheses, wouldn't you?   
   You know, like in the factories where they make the machines. Like they   
   test 'em for what temperatures they can take.   
      
   You'd also have thought they'd know not to draw statistical inferences   
   from one case.   
      
   And you'd have thought they'd know that correlation - yes, even with   
   only one instance - doesn't imply causation.   
      
   And what with all the money they make, 'selling' drugs and equipment to   
   bribed officials, half of whom pretend to be 'doctors' (in the knowledge   
   that most punters will think they really are 'doctors' of something),   
   you'd have thought they could afford to buy some testing equipment and   
   some knowledge. Yeah?   
      
   What on earth makes you think you can get away with such bullshitting?   
   Gets you by at work does it?   
      
   And what was your "all manner of data" again?   
      
   Fucking union reps! Got a nice tasty job in personnel lined up? You seem   
   to have no shame in selling the company line...   
      
   >As   
   >there has only been one proven case and a number of suspected cases it   
   >makes it rather difficult to decide which way to go   
      
      
      
   --   
   banana     "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you   
               give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to   
               Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the   
               rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)