XPost: uk.politics.misc
From: banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk
In article <448eaabb$0$2028$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>, B. B.
writes
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>"banana" schreef in bericht
>news:KQ4asUA$1LhEFwzz@borve.demon.co.uk...
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>> Most women I've known haven't given a tinker's cuss for football.
>
>Go to the pub when England plays and see for yourself that many of the women
>you don't know like football.
You can't get a sensible handle on the question raised in the title of
this thread just by going to pubs when England plays!!
Most women rarely go to pubs, even when England isn't playing. This is
true of a fairly large proportion of men too.
I would agree that most people who go to most pubs when England plays
(whether male or female) are not exactly turned off by either football
or nationalism.
It is obvious that many people enjoy watching football, and are taking
part in the nationalist hysteria with regard to the world cup
competition. My point was that the proportion of the population involved
is smaller than is being presented.
>> (Although a friend told me recently that she has known several women
>> who've pretended to be interested in football in order to get into a
>> man's knickers, despite actually finding it about as boring as watching
>> paint dry).
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>Most football watching men I know wouldn't like it when their
>wives/girlfriends started sexual acts during a match.
>Afterwards, alright,
>in the interval, alright, but not during the match. I will conduct a poll to
>back this up -:) (During the interval would be difficult, since millions of
>men watch matches in the pub or, even better, in the stadiums!)
I've got no problem with this observation - except that most men who
watch football mainly do so at home, rather than at a pub or at a
stadium. Although I was interested to see that in some places in England
large screens have been erected in public places so that crowds can
watch England's matches. One wonders where that is leading.
I just don't understand what your observation has to do with mine, which
was that my friend has known several women who PRETEND to be interested
when men TALK about football (not when they're WATCHING it!), but in
actual fact they think the subject is VERY BORING, and are HUMOURING the
men in order to get into their knickers.
Most women don't care for football. Unfortunately they include many who
don't discourage their sons from the idiotic submissiveness of fandom.
>Your friend has an outdated and even degrading view on women and their
>sexual capabilities, to say the least. No wonder you aligned yourself with
>her.
You do not appear to be addressing the topic in any sensible way. I made
no statement about all women. Moreover, it is the MEN involved in what I
said, who come out as the idiots. The women involved come out as having
bad taste, maybe.
>In my post you refer to, I said most people in the UK like football and TV.
>You snipped "TV" and focused on "football'.
Sure.
>It may be true that the number
>of people in the UK who like football is lower than my usage of the word
>"most" suggests, but it is certainly true that most people in the UK like
>TV.
Agreed.
>Most UK households have at least one TV set. People like Ann Widdecombe
>and the Borvites don't, but they belong to a tiny minority. Well, they live
>in free country, they don't have to have a TV. You want to ban TV, and, I
>presume, football too. "Thinking for yourself?" More like totalirism in my
>book.
If wanting social conditions where people always have better things to
do than watch TV (or play sport) is 'totalitarian', well, call it what
you like.
--
banana "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you
give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to
Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the
rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)
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