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   From: banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk   
      
   In article <1150229758.270619.139110@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,   
   claire.easthope@ntlworld.com writes   
      
   >> They want a 'community' of shit-scared xenophobic supporters of the   
   >> strong State. In conditions of permanent war.   
   >   
   >You know, most smart people went on to read other books after 'Nineteen   
   >Eighty Four'!   
      
   One of the most asinine comments I have heard for a long time.   
      
   >> It strikes me that the coming weeks might be a very useful time for the   
   >> 'insiders' behind the massacres of 911 and 7/7 to carry out another   
   >> murderous terror attack.   
   >>   
   >> Think of the 'public relations' dividend.   
      
      
      
   >Rubbish. I've seen a good many Asians flying the flag.   
      
   That doesn't mean it wouldn't be a useful time. Some Jews supported   
   Hitler.   
      
   Anyway you'd have had to be asleep not to notice that there's been an   
   effort to build up some shitty role-model of a 'west-supporting liberal   
   Muslim' these past few years. (In the UK, I mean; probably not in the   
   US).   
      
   >We've tried the   
   >self-hatred and post-colonial guilt and it gets us home-grown   
   >suicide-bombers.   
      
   Your concept of 'we' needs junking. Ditto self-hatred and post-colonial   
   guilt. Indeed, ditto 'home-grown suicide bombers' too. Any sane person   
   would suspect that that alleged Mohammad Sidique Khan video was a fake.   
   That Peter Power interview, however, definitely wasn't.   
      
   >So so what if it is a response to the events of 7/7,   
   >living in a multi-cultural part of London   
      
   What part of London isn't?   
      
   >I can tell you now that there   
   >is something very comforting about it, that we are all able to feel   
   >together whatever community we belong to.   
      
   Like Big Brother putting his arm around you?   
      
   Nationalism is precisely about 'all feeling together for the Nation,   
   regardless of our individual backgrounds'. A nation is a BRAND. Do you   
   feel all warm inside when you watch Coca-Cola advertisements?   
      
   BTW the notion that everyone in the UK 'belongs' to an ethnic   
   'community' has been given a fair amount of PR spend for the past year   
   or so. As has the idea that there is a 'white working class', all of   
   whose members are knuckle-dragging racists.   
      
   --   
   banana     "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you   
               give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to   
               Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the   
               rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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