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From: njb904@charter.net
"Ariadne" wrote in message
news:1151966310.833724.60330@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
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> Ed wrote:
> > "Ariadne" wrote in message
> > news:1151963631.864278.174970@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Ed wrote:
> > >> "banana" wrote in message
> > >> news:r$uiHxAIdUqEFwda@borve.demon.co.uk...
> > >> > In article , Norma
> > >> > writes
> > >> >
> > >> >>"oO" wrote in message
> > >> >>news:4gqv40F1ocut7U1@individual.net...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "halle" wrote in message
> > >> >>> news:I_ipg.12184$A82.1336@reader1.news.jippii.net...
> > >> >>> > axel@white-eagle.invalid.uk
wrote:
> > >> >>> >> In uk.politics.misc Ed wrote:
> > >> >>> >>
> > >> >>> >>> "banana" wrote in
message
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >>Guilt by association and knowing about crimes and not
> > >> >>telling is called "collaboration" anywhere in the world. The
> > >> >>Palestinians
> > >> >>aren't so uninformed as you must think.
> > >> >
> > >> > This kind of shit is extremely similar to the 'justification' used
by
> > >> > the Nazis for slaughtering thousands of Jewish people in Kiev, as
the
> > >> > mass murder of Jews began to intensify rapidly, e.g. via Wannsee.
> > >>
> > >> No it isn't.
> > >> Palestinians are deliberately trying to kill Jews.
> > >> The Jews in Kiev weren't bothering anybody.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Did you see Norma's comment in another
> > > thread? A taxi driver in Amman said to her
> > > that the "Palestinians" are "godless bastards".
> > >
> > > Apart from that - Happy Independence Day!
> > >
> > > And to Norma who may reappear in this
> > > thread...
> >
> > Thanks, Ariadne, same to you, even if it's a "day of mourning" where you
> > are, LOL.
> >
>
> I don't think it really is except to the kind of
> idiots who post to uk.politics.misc. You
> know most of them.
>
> There is interest in, for example, Roanoke,
> Pocahontas, the Amish, the Pilgrim Fathers
> - first things that come to mind.
These are all very good topics for discussion.
We have a colony of Amish farms close to where I live. They are usually
very nice people, although the lifestyle is very strict for those who stay
with the group. A surprising thing is that they are the largest growers of
marijuana in our state, so they have electricity to the top of their barns
for that cash crop. They came to this decision when they saw how many users
are attracted to the drug and how it could help them finance the health care
and replace the social security earned by others. With the close inbreeding
they suffer great handicaps that threaten the occupation of farming. They
even started a sperm bank and financed vacation so the young people could
meet and marry other Amish people for marriage and establishing a healthier
population. The number of deformities has improved in some places since that
has happened. Very rich story can be told about the history and doing of
the Amish religion.
The children often leave and return for a limited number of times. Most of
them go to live among the "English" (they call Americans that) to try out
drinking, smoking, dating, etc, before they make their decision about
whether to stay with the community. They hire the children out to local
farmers, and they do drive and have a social life, including dating of the
English, at this time. It is not an easy life by any means.
I have attended several weddings (brides in black) and funerals (all women
wear white) , and they have allowed my students to visit in their homes, and
to give care for the sick. Their products are gorgeous: furniture,
delicious and fattening food, and beautiful handwork. The coloful quilts
are sold to the public, but they use only ecru color in their homes. The
products are popular and expensive, but very popular. We see many of them
in the cardiovascular units in our hospitals.
We also have Mennonites, who have an upscale life style with telephones and
cars--- huge black cars are their trademark. This group of people are
usually quite wealthy, as opposed to the Amish. Most of the young people
in this group attend high school and college, and the Amish quite education
at the eighty grade.
> And Shaker furniture. I think people might well
> understand the impulse to make a new life when
> persecuted. A lot of us are running away from
> immigration. To become immigrants, ironically!
The Shaker life style is austere and hard to handle. They do not have sex,
thus no children. Any children born are called "mistakes of faith", but
accepted well by the communicants. They live in huge dormitory-style
buildings, with women and men sides--all with separate entrances/exits and
completely separate from the other.
I like the Shaker style furniture with its simple lines and lovely wood.
They also create lovely baskets, musical recordings (vocal without
instruments or reeds or instruments of natural things, I have a couple of
lovely CD that I play often. :Like the Amish they are farmers primarily,
and live amongst crops, animals, and in large acreage farms. It is very
popular everywhere in the USA and other places as well.
They nearly died out in recent years, but they do have new members at this
times, so they may very well survive into the future. If one wants a very
different life style, this is the way. A tour of their premises is a nice
thing to do, as the simple way of living is very appealing.
>
>
>
> > Actually, the world is waking up to the sheer animalism of Palestinians.
> > They deserve nothing until they totally change everything about their
way of
> > life.
It is about time, that it is recognized that they have been not willing to
be partners in a peace process. The religion is practiced sporadically
there and very negative. The new brand of terrorists have been inhabiting
the territories in recent times, esp. with the election of Hamas. If they
choose to participate it will make things easier for everyone, but it
doesn't look promising. The current conditions with the standoff after
killing two soldiers and kidnapping one, along with the killing of settlers
has to recognized by the real Palestinians as the major cause of their
problems.
BTW, I was not the person who called them "godless people", I was the one
who the taxi driver in Jordan complained to about the number and presence of
so many Palestinians in that country. They are disliked and never given
much there--far worse than the conditions "could" be in a separate space of
their own.
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