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   From: [remove]bencramer7@gmail.com   
      
   "zr"  wrote in message   
   news:iH_qg.44165$Uy1.9912@read1.cgocable.net...   
   > If the Arabs laid down their weapons today, there would be peace.   
   > If Israel laid down its weapons today there would be no Israel tomorrow.   
      
   And that's a bad thing?   
      
      
      
      
      
      
   > Tragically, Palestinian children are socialized in an environment of   
   > hatred and violence through schoolbooks, television programming, youth   
   > groups, camps and religious leaders.   
   > Not only are these children recruited as warriors, they are physically   
   > placed in front of combatants as "human shields."   
   > Your sentiments are commendable but naive.   
   >   
   >  wrote in message   
   > news:1152145057.025784.215150@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...   
   >>I think that there has been enough misdeeds by all parties to fill a   
   >> library if we were to spend the time cataloging them.  But if we did,   
   >> we would fall into the trap that the parties to the conflict find   
   >> themselves in now and we would spend all of our time pointing fingers   
   >> at each other instead of looking for ways to end this conflict.   
   >>   
   >> Instead, I suggest that we concentrate on 2 things;   
   >>   
   >> 1. Finding a way out of this mess for BOTH Israel and Palestine.   
   >> 2. Figuring out how to convince the involved parties why this might be   
   >> the best way for them to proceed.   
   >>   
   >> It is my belief that the great problem here is a lack of trust on both   
   >> sides which tends to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Because either   
   >> side does not believe the other side's wish for peace is genuine, they   
   >> do not make a whole-hearted effort at peace themselves.  Their opposite   
   >> numbers read this lack of conviction as betrayal-in-waiting and then   
   >> starts pulling back themselves.  This goes back and forth until the   
   >> peace collapses for lack of trying.   
   >>   
   >> I believe that the solution to this is to arrange the steps to peace as   
   >> a series of Boolean Logic - Israel could agree that, IF Palestine   
   >> recognizes Israel's right to exist and agrees to peace, THEN  Israel   
   >> will grant Statehood to Palestine along the lines that it has drawn   
   >> now.  That places the ball in Palestine's court.  If it fulfils the 2   
   >> steps (peace and recognition), then Israel is bound by its agreement,   
   >> and Palestine is its own state.   
   >>     If Palestine fulfils the agreement and Israel reneges, then they   
   >> can go back to war- Palestine is in no worse a position than it is now.   
   >>   
   >> If Palestine fulfils the agreement, Israel fulfils its part and then   
   >> Palestine   
   >> begins attacks, Israel can re-invade.   
   >>     But if both sides stick to their agreements, then a major step   
   >> towards peace has been taken.  Palestine gets control of its own   
   >> affairs again, aid can flow in and both sides have to realize that the   
   >> other side is capable of moving  forward with the peace process.   
   >>   
   >> Comments, anyone?   
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