From: Here@my.place   
      
   On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:08:15 +1000, "Christian Task"  wrote:   
      
   "the NDE is only the brain's way of coping woth a stressfulevent,"   
      
   Not true!  The response to extreme G force may very well be a   
   externally induced OOBE.  The blood is forced out of the brain and the   
   death process starts.  If it was continued for a long period there   
   would be a risk of brain damage from dead neurons.  The body and   
   consciousness actually separates.  There is a great deal of evidence   
   supporting the separation of consciousness from the body.  Such as   
   viewing distant events that could not have been viewed otherwise,   
   receiving information that could not be obtain through "normal"   
   methods, and even vision in those whose eyes were blind.   
      
   Our definition of what is "dead" has had to change greatly.  It once   
   was just the absence of a heartbeat, but now we have people pronounced   
   dead after 30 min with no brain waves, and returning to full health,   
   and reporting NDE's.  There is a tremendous amount of evidence that   
   there is much more happening than brain chemistry can even begin to   
   explain.  But on the other side, brain chemistry can not even explain   
   consciousness itself, mush less an NDE.   
      
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