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   Alan B. Mac Farlane to All   
   Re: Meaningless Void NDE?   
   17 Sep 03 05:11:22   
   
   From: sumbuddie@sumbuddie.net   
      
   I have been in the misty voidness, there is a brown misty stuff and a black   
   place I have been to in my NDEs ... they are parts of the spinning vortex   
   that most of all being who leave Earth go to.  The tunnel of light if you   
   will ... its about 1,300 years away as the earth travels in its larger   
   orbit.   
      
   You black negative experience I would propose is based in Post Traumatic   
   Stress Disorder and can healed ... as it does - your NDEs will change into a   
   place of love.   
      
   Fear is a basic lack of knowledge, once the knowlege comes in the fear goes   
   away.   
      
   Love is a lot of knowledge ... most of it is inside if you are quiet enough   
   to hear it.   
      
   Its a language of the heart.   
      
   sumbuddie knows whats going on   
      
   :)   
      
      
      
   in article bk6jiq$cb3$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk, H at anon@nomail.com   
   wrote on 9/16/03 2:02 AM:   
      
   >   
   > Just want to clarify if we are talking about the same thing (ie, is this   
   > just a matter of perception or are you talking about something different).   
   > In mine it was pitch black with nothing but anxiety and fear. It was   
   > definately a NEGATIVE experience, not just a misty impartial place.  I have   
   > had this twice now (8 years apart), in the first instance it made a lot of   
   > sense, it was a negative situation, but the more recent time was during   
   > childbirth. I'm a completely different person than I was 10 years ago (or at   
   > least I thought I was), but it seems that the NDEs were identical.   
   >   
   > h (OP)   
   >   
      
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