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|    Steve S. to Crowfoot    |
|    Re: NDE have you changed?    |
|    16 Oct 03 13:28:43    |
      From: ssake@goldthread.com              I would say the truth is somewhere in-between. It's been my impression (as a       man) that some significant percentage of women struggle with their decision       to have had an abortion for many years afterwards. Partly the whole issue is       confused because of lack of knowledge about reincarnation, i.e., when it is       that the person in their subtle body enters the developing fetus. Depending       on how you define "murder", it would be murder after that point, supposing       you could determine what that point was. Whether the child was in the womb       or not would not be the most relevant determinant. However, there is still       the link of the mother to the incoming person and the destiny and       relationship cut short (at least temporarily), and that's an issue to be       taken seriously, as well. It would be something like arranging for an old       friend to visit you from a far country, and they get half-way there and you       cut off their funding. There could be good reasons for that but it wouldn't       be something to do lightly.              As for choice, once the incoming person has become established in the fetus,       it's a person just as much as after it's born, in my opinion, and we don't       allow people to "choose" infanticide these days, though that has been legal       in other societies in history. Even today a few women do choose this method       of "abortion", and perhaps some of them don't have any regret about it, but       that argument doesn't necessarily make it right.              I would be particularly concerned about late pregnancy abortions, because       these fetuses may be housing newly-incarnated, conscious persons.       Steve S.                            "Crowfoot" |
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