home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   alt.consciousness.near-death-exp      Discussions of cheating the grim reaper      2,497 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 1,287 of 2,497   
   Steve S. to Crowfoot   
   Re: NDE have you changed?   
   16 Oct 03 13:28:43   
   
   From: ssake@goldthread.com   
      
   I would say the truth is somewhere in-between. It's been my impression (as a   
   man) that some significant percentage of women struggle with their decision   
   to have had an abortion for many years afterwards. Partly the whole issue is   
   confused because of lack of knowledge about reincarnation, i.e., when it is   
   that the person in their subtle body enters the developing fetus. Depending   
   on how you define "murder", it would be murder after that point, supposing   
   you could determine what that point was. Whether the child was in the womb   
   or not would not be the most relevant determinant. However, there is still   
   the link of the mother to the incoming person and the destiny and   
   relationship cut short (at least temporarily), and that's an issue to be   
   taken seriously, as well. It would be something like arranging for an old   
   friend to visit you from a far country, and they get half-way there and you   
   cut off their funding. There could be good reasons for that but it wouldn't   
   be something to do lightly.   
      
   As for choice, once the incoming person has become established in the fetus,   
   it's a person just as much as after it's born, in my opinion, and we don't   
   allow people to "choose" infanticide these days, though that has been legal   
   in other societies in history. Even today a few women do choose this method   
   of "abortion", and perhaps some of them don't have any regret about it, but   
   that argument doesn't necessarily make it right.   
      
   I would be particularly concerned about late pregnancy abortions, because   
   these fetuses may be housing newly-incarnated, conscious persons.   
   Steve S.   
      
      
      
   "Crowfoot"  wrote in message   
   news:bkpsf4$i9d$1@iruka.swcp.com...   
   > > in article 3F6D0CD2.2DF5@netzero.com, nancy at nancyOrange@netzero.com   
   > > wrote   
   > > on 9/20/03 7:28 PM:   
   > >   
   > > > Because you're a man you miss the most important argument   
   > > > against abortion. Men can never understand the emotional damage a   
   woman   
   > > > suffers after her abortion. Once the life of the baby is destroyed we   
   > > > feel as murderers. When it is too late the denial beomes our only   
   > > > defense.   
   >   
   > Speak for yourself.  Sorry you feel badly about abortion, but I know   
   > many women, including my own two younger sisters, who have had abortions   
   > and have suffered no ill effects in the years since.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca