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   Crowfoot to CHESSRL2002@YAHOO.COM   
   Re: Judy   
   09 Nov 03 21:50:42   
   
   From: suzych@swcp.com   
      
   In article <3FADBA3F.8D9@YAHOO.COM>, CHESSRL2002@YAHOO.COM wrote:   
      
   > When we dream, the part of the brain which converts short-term memory to   
   > long-term is turned off. If we awake, too long after a dream, we won't   
   > remember it. So you do dream, you just don't remember it. This also   
   > explains why people, even when they remember their dreams, only remember   
   > having one, the last one they had before they awoke.   
      
   Not if you spend a little time and attention training your memory.   
   When I kept a dream journal, a couple of decades ago, by the fourth   
   or fifth year I was remembering whole strings of dreams, though I had   
   to dash off a key-word for each one immediately upon waking -- a   
   list of keywords, that is -- or some of them would vanish in the first   
   few minutes of being awake even as I scribbled them down.   
      
   >   
   > Judy Hale wrote:   
      
   > > Should we be taking it into our own hands. Shooting abortion Doctors,   
   > > executing the mothers. They have the same free will God as we do. We   
   > > are NOT GOD or his helpers.   
   > > We are all still just people, we can only live and hope we can make a   
   > > difference. What do ya think?   
      
   Everything is choice, and choice is what matters most.  If you choose   
   fanaticism and kill abortion providers, you will have to pay off the   
   karma of those deaths sooner or later.  Mothers who abort female fetuses   
   in Asia won't pay karma for that (at least, not in my opinion since I   
   believe conscious, soul-full life begins with the first breath), but   
   they are still going to end up paying karma for other decisions that   
   their acceptance of the idea of female inferiority will lead them to   
   make about the lives of their mothers, sisters, and other daughters or   
   daughters-in-law.  We "try on" different attitudes and then we "try on"   
   being the recipients of the actions of others who hold those attitudes,   
   and that's how we learn the acceptance that leads to escape from the   
   wheel of incarnation.   
      
   > > "Alan B. Mac Farlane"  wrote in message   
   > > news:BBD0E113.42E0%sumbuddie@sumbuddie.net...   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > Hey ... I did not write the Bible ... I just quoted Exodus 21:22-27   
   > > > that   
   > > > clearly shows the unborn child is dead and has no breath of life and   
   > > > can not be killed.   
   > > >   
   I think you mean that it can be killed but this is not murder, as the   
   killing of a fully formed, ensouled person -- male or female -- is   
   murder?  I agree.  The way I see it, the point of it all is to make   
   choices.  A fetus has no soul because it doesn't need one -- what   
   choices can it make?  None.  And if the fetus becomes deformed in some   
   way that messes up the life-plans of the soul that itends to inhabit it,   
   the discarnate soul can then change plans and regroup, which is just   
   plain sense to me.   
      
   > > > The women who has the breath of life - the soul - she can be killed   
   > > > and it is murder ... not for the unborn child.   
      
   My opinion as well.  And in masculinist cultures like ours, there is   
   always pressure to keep women in their place by insisting on valuing the   
   life of a fetus, any fetus, no matter how compromised or damaged, over   
   and above that of a mere woman.  This attitude is a dead giveaway.   
   --   
   Crow   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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