From: bdplikaytis@nspmbellsouth.net   
      
   If I understand your abbreviations you said you were on ecstasy? You saw the   
   image while in a drug-induced state? It is well known that certain drugs can   
   stimulate certain aspects of an NDE. Ketamine seems to be one that many   
   people talk about. One aspect of the experience to consider is whether it   
   unfolded in a clear and logical manner. Most drug induced experiences are   
   random and chaotic. NDEs tend to proceed along a given 'storyline' with   
   themes that are somewhat unique to the experiencer. Perhaps the most   
   significant criteria that most people would use to distinguish between a   
   real NDE and imagery that may 'look' and 'feel' like an NDE is to consider   
   the after effects. One of your after effects is that you remember the   
   experience long after it happened (if I read your post correctly). This is   
   one characteristic that separates an NDE from a dream - most people do not   
   remember details in dreams much longer than a day or so whereas NDEers   
   remember most aspects of their experiences years afterwards with crystal   
   clarity. One other after effect of a true NDE is whether it causes you to   
   reflect on your life and perhaps consider changing your temperament and   
   behavior in some positive fashion. Drug induced imagery that approximates an   
   NDE typically does not stimulate personal introspection on the part of the   
   experiencer.   
      
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   Brian   
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   > hi all i don't usually come to this group as im an agnostic but im puzzled   
   > about an image that has stuck in my mind for a long time now...this image   
   > came to me when i was well on xtc and i past out or if you like tripped   
   out   
   > but out of all the times it happened i can still recall this 1 and only   
   > image and im puzzled as to if it could have been an nde probably not but   
   > please let me know what you think...thanx in advance   
   >   
   > hope you can see this pic i made this as near to the image as i could   
   >   
   > p.s. the people in it were walking around and the orange light became   
   bigger   
   > and bigger until i could'nt see anything else.i aslo felt very pleased and   
   > content you know when you feel perfectly happy with no worries or cares of   
   > anything and you thats all you feel and think....   
   >   
   > thanx again   
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