From: sumbuddie@sumbuddie.net   
      
   in article 64d469c4.0312112027.1ce95802@posting.google.com, Gadfly at   
   sincere_one2001ca@yahoo.com wrote on 12/11/03 8:27 PM:   
      
   > "Alan B. Mac Farlane"  wrote in message   
   > news:...   
   >> in article 64d469c4.0312102221.2a06280c@posting.google.com, Gadfly at   
   >> sincere_one2001ca@yahoo.com wrote on 12/10/03 10:21 PM:   
   >>   
   >>> #3.  You die...You do the "life review".  You realize you've got a   
   >>> long way to go in order to merge with the ultimate reality.  Wait a   
   >>> second!  The ultimate reality or God or whatever, should be able to   
   >>> transform you instantly anyway without the bother of struggling   
   >>> through a gut-wrenching, heartless earth existence. The power of the   
   >>> ultimate reality is infinite..and yet it needs you to experience some   
   >>> inefficient, pathetic earth existence?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> God gave you free will - and the journey is not to merge with ultimate   
   >> reality - that is other people's shit in your brain ... comes with their   
   >> brainwashing in this system of things ... they pray to a Father in Heaven   
   >> who has sex with his daughters.   
   >>   
   >> Who wants to merge with that except for a freak like Tom Delay ... or Pat   
   >> Robertson.   
   >   
   >   
   > ---->  Um...my understanding is that even the most "undesirable" type   
   > has some ultimate cosmic purpose.  And if God gave me free will (and   
   > incidentally wiped out my memory of who I really am well on Earth),   
   > then God shares a least part liability for the actions I have taken in   
   > the past and will take in the future.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Anyhow ... we are here to play, have a good time, grow and expand heart ...   
   >> so that when you die  - the otherside is completely different and new -   
   >   
   >   
   > ----> From what I read of the NDE...once on the otherside, all one has   
   > to do is think to achieve a new reality and the other side is quite   
   > malleable.  The other side is already a utopia with everything one   
   > could want.  What more does it need?   
   >>   
   >> its a big place on the otherside - but you are immortal and live in the   
   >> light where time stops ... and after a few eons  - you have seen it all -   
   >> and have to take a new life to change who you are - so the otherside is   
   >> changed again.   
   >>   
   >> life - or nature - or the universe - all the fires and lights will go out -   
   >> the heat and light will be absorbed by the darkmatter - just to freeze solid   
   >> - crack from the cold to make a spark and explode into the big bang and do   
   >> it all over again.   
   >   
   > ---> Er..wait a sec...you've reverted to talking about the phsical   
   > universe now.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> hey man - life is but a joke.   
   >>   
   >> and i have three cords and a verse.   
   >>   
   >> sumbuddie who cares   
   >   
   > ----> Um...you say that life is but a joke...but every second of your   
   > life is apparently recorded in minute detail for the life review (in   
   > surround sound where available?).  Don't hear a lot of NDE'ers   
   > laughing at this point in their experience.  And if life is but a   
   > joke, I don't understand why you would bill yourself as "sumbuddie who   
   > cares".   
   >>   
   >> :)   
      
      
   this is the part of you that has ptsd ... most fragmented and full of anger.   
      
   sumbuddie luvs ya anyway   
      
   :)   
      
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