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   Steve S. to Paul Allen Panks   
   Re: Reversing the Past   
   11 Feb 04 12:16:15   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.cbm   
   From: ssake@goldthread.com   
      
   There's no way to erase or modify the past. However, the present (our   
   present, as we experience it) is really the past repeating, based on karma.   
   When you resolve some karmic issue, things change, and in effect this *is*   
   changing your past, because it's a tape loop. It would be something like a   
   movie being played over and over. You can introduce a change into the movie   
   so next time it plays it will be different. But you can't change the   
   previous time it played. I think the concept of time-travel is--hard to put   
   my sense of it into words--we've defined ourselves into a corner. It's   
   conceptually self-contradictory. According to what I've read, in reality   
   there is only the present moment. Our limited perception forces us to kind   
   of spread it out into time, and once that perception takes hold, it has this   
   charateristic of being linear--and of looping. It loops because it isn't   
   complete, and that's a Don Quixote-ish quest, because in that mode of   
   perception, the total present can never be completely experienced in linear   
   time. So it loops indefinitely trying to come to completion. In short, you   
   can't go back in time because it never happened in the first place in time.   
   However, if you could experience the present completely, you would have both   
   the past and the future combined within it, and the loop would stop.   
   Steve S.   
      
      
      
   "Paul Allen Panks"  wrote in message   
   news:c06pnr$6ec$1@chessie.cirr.com...   
   > Is there a way to go back into the space-time continuum to reverse a past   
   > event or loss of an item? Have cases been reported where someone has   
   > awakened from a dream taking place in the past, only to find that the past   
   > has been reversed in some form?   
   >   
   > I have heard of quite a few Near-Death Experiences whereby the experiencer   
   > was shown a possible future and allowed to either avoid it or let it   
   > occur. I also know of a few examples from the precognitive realm where the   
   > experiencer saw a future before it happened -- and yet some futures   
   happened   
   > inspite of efforts by the experiencer to change it.   
   >   
   > I am reasoning that if the state of time can be advanced to show a future   
   > moment in the present one, it might be possible for the state of time to   
   > be reversed to change a past moment in the present one.   
   >   
   > Stretching things even further, has anyone heard of angelic encounters   
   > whereby lost items were miraculously found, either by the divine   
   > intervention of the celestial being or by information granted from the   
   > celestial being to the experiencer?   
   >   
   > Is it also possible to reverse the loss of data from the changing of the   
   > magnetic field within a disk or harddrive? An example I would consider   
   > scientifically feasible would be to reverse the magnetic field   
   > fluctuations of a present magnetic field state to previous magnetic field   
   > state conditions.   
   >   
   > If, by examination, data is held in place by that of magnetic recording   
   > and/or magnetism, can "peeling back" the magnetic field of the disk to   
   > previous states uncover previously lost, damaged or erased data? In the   
   > cases of accidental or unintended erasure, it would be truly important to   
   > recover the data (if possible) by peeling back the magnetic field to   
   > previous magnetic states.   
   >   
   > Is any of this (technologically) feasible or plausible?   
   >   
   > Sincerely,   
   >   
   > Paul   
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