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   Dorian West to Epoch II   
   Re: The most(?) convincing argument for    
   16 Feb 04 00:08:44   
   
   From: westdorian@yahoo.com.au   
      
   That is the most ridiculous sceptic's argument anyway. Why would you need   
   comforting in a materialistic, soul-less world if you're going to die and be   
   utterly extinguished forever and ever? How did such a mechanism evolve   
   anyway? I'm no firm believer but those ivory tower pratts prove what   
   complete idiots and how detached from reality they really are. Just like   
   Sagan's argument of a pre-birth memory - MORE JUVENILE SCIENCE. Again, WHAT   
   FOR? Why do I need a pre-birth memory if I'm dying in a materialistic world.   
   Likewise the argument of loss of peripheral vision due to oxygen   
   deprivation.   
      
   "Epoch II"  wrote in message   
   news:20040212180848.27163.00001754@mb-m11.aol.com...   
   > There is one particular aspect of the Near Death Experience which leaves   
   me   
   > stumped and it's often overlooked.   
   >   
   >  Hypothetically, if the NDE is hardwired into our brain after years of   
   > evolution to provide comfort and ease to those who are dying. It would   
   also   
   > create illusionary people -- particuraly loved ones -- to aid in the   
   process of   
   > termination.   
   >   
   >  I've read many NDE stories, and I have NEVER heard of anybody meeting   
   somebody   
   > during their 'hallucination' who was still alive. They meet people who   
   have   
   > already died, in some cases people they did not realize were dead until   
   they   
   > saw them during the NDE vision.   
   >   
   >  Realisticly, if the skeptics are correct, the NDE should be producing   
   > hallucinations of people the experiencer currently knows and loves. Such   
   as a   
   > living husband or wife, this would undoubtedly provide the maximum level   
   of   
   > comfort.   
   >   
   >  When someone has died, we naturally go through a process of detachment.   
   Why   
   > would your mind ONLY conjure the faces and personalities of people whom   
   have   
   > been lost and you've detached yourself from? It makes no sense. Comments   
   > please.   
   >   
   > Cyrus Kirkpatrick   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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