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   RobertLauzeckas to Epoch II   
   Re: Embraced by the Light of Deception   
   19 Apr 04 12:38:38   
   
   From: rlauzeckas@yahoo.com   
      
   Epoch II wrote:   
   >   
   > << snip previous posts >>   
   >   
   >  I still hold to my belief that individual consciousness plays into a larger   
   > equation. Even if we are all just droplets in the big ocean, we are required   
   to   
   > remain as separate facets if we so desire for the purpose of developing bonds   
   > and relationships with one another.   
   >   
   >  Those with the belief that this individuality is destroyed upon death will   
   > likely fulfill their wish and be reunited with the wholeness and completely   
   > lose their sense of identity, albeit forgetting that by doing so you are   
   > throwing away the most important thing you gain from Earthly life -- your own   
   > unique persona.   
   >   
   >  Those with different beliefs will likely take different paths. If you want   
   to   
   > remain as the person you were born on Earth as you can be that person for as   
   > long as you possibly desire. But if you are not content with whom you have   
   > become you can rejoin the wholeness and likely be reincarnated once again as   
   a   
   > discarnate Earthly entity at some point in space-time.   
   >   
   >  Those with different views may find themselves in different states after   
   > death. While the Buddhists desire to return with the wholeness, others seek   
   > different paths and often remain as the same person they were while on Earth,   
   > evidence for this exists in the records of talented physical mediums like   
   Helen   
   > Duncan who could bring forth the voices and apparitions of individual souls   
   who   
   > wanted to contact their loved ones from the other side. If we ALL lose our   
   > identity and rejoin the collective consciousness such individual souls would   
   > surely not exist in the spirit world.   
   >   
   > Epoch   
   >   
   >   
      
      
    This is what I wrote years ago about my NDE, it might provide ideas to   
   some.   
      
      
   NDE   
   ----------   
      
    	It feels realer than anything you ever felt before in your   
   short life here. You're aware of the state and that you're supposed   
   to be dead. You're also aware ...but you're not. Seems very natural to   
   be composed of pure thought since you see reality itself is. You also   
   feel more alive than you ever did on your best day when you were encased   
   in a physical body. That body never felt like a prison before, but now   
   it does.  You know/sense you're immortal. What you are can't die anymore   
   than a number can be wiped out.  You feel free, warm, and happy to be   
   back in your natural state. You sense that you existed long before   
   you entered your human body. It isn't, your body was born, your soul   
   grew   
   with it and you were released with death from it, nope, you did this   
   many times before. You earned your way to becoming a human and climbed   
   a long long ladder of life. Many deaths and many lives. All contributing   
   to what you're still becoming. Nothing you ever felt in this life can   
   match   
   the white light. Its alive with an indescribable love. And you're part   
   of it,   
   always were. This place you sense is where all places originate from.   
   You're back to the heart of reality. Aliveness runs deepest. There is no   
   denial of death,  you're more alive without a brain telling you what you   
   can think and how well.   
      
   	But you know the world served a purpose. It was there where your   
   individuality could develop. Where you could be your own person. Where   
   you could get away from knowing God is right over your shoulder. You   
   forgot   
   about being a soul to develop character and inner spiritual strength   
   with   
   hardship down here. This place wasn't intended to be a joy trip, but we   
   strive   
   to make it so[a good thing]. Just one of the challenges we set up for   
   ourselves to spiritually grow with personal experience. Personal   
   experience is best way souls grow. They crave it like bodies crave food   
   and sex.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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