From: whatever@twixtntween.com   
      
   On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:04:10 -0400, "CAndersen (Kimba)"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Ukes  wrote:   
   >   
   >>Only humans and perhaps some of the great apes experience   
   >>"self-consciousness".   
   >   
   >Oh, that's not true at all. I know it's been a popular line among   
   >academics in the past, but it derives from not properly observing other   
   >animals and fortunately it is falling out of favor even in the ivory tower   
   >set.   
      
   I agree.  My cat very clearly had the power of choice and decision   
   making (not to mention personality and character traits).  That, to   
   me, clearly indicates self-consciousness.   
      
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