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   Your Name Here=Harvey to All   
   Re: The James Randi $1,000,000 - a quest   
   22 May 04 16:19:07   
   
   XPost: alt.paranormal.reincarnation   
   From: you@somewhere.not.aus   
      
   In article <40adafc8$0$8986$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,   
   westdorian@yahoo.com.au says...   
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   >"Your Name Here=Harvey"  wrote in message   
   >news:x49rc.3259$FN.342143@news02.tsnz.net...   
   >> In article <40a9b39e$0$8987$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,   
   >> westdorian@yahoo.com.au says...   
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   >> >Why has no-one been able to claim it if all these things are purportedly   
   >> >true? It should have gone aeons ago. Could all these NDEs, OOBEs,   
   >visions,   
   >> >feelings etc. be just colossal delusions? Should the people that have   
   >them   
   >> >seek medical attention?   
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   >> >Anyone have any insight(s)?   
   >> >   
   >> >Thank.   
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   >> It is obvious that he doesn't willingly part with any of his money.   
   >>   
   >> re: divination, is the simpler one to prove, yet he sets up a test   
   >> according to his own weird logic. Water bottles hidden underground,   
   >> yet diviners search for running water sources.   
   >> Why not just follow a proven water diviner and dig where he/she says   
   >> to dig, and confirm what is foretold?   
   >> However there is a group of scientists who believe in diviners - and   
   >> have so far not been able to come up with their own concrete   
   >evidence/proof   
   >> that it is 'real'.   
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   >> It's probably more the case - that mankind is on the edge? of believing   
   >> in these things, seeing that these simply do not go away with scientific   
   >> reasoning and logic (or everyday commonsense) - that only if science would   
   >> play catch up, and invent the instruments (or stumble across them   
   >> accidentally - which has happened, only for them to be lost) necessary to   
   >> record and provide the 'proof' that these do in fact exist.   
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   >What instruments do you know of that have been discovered and then lost?   
   >Surely we're on the brink of developing some kind of camera that can catch   
   >images of the spirit world?   
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   >> The mainstream world view has to change, to accept these as possible and   
   >> then probable.. then finally proven...   
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   >> Harvey   
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   The classic example is the one about the human aura. Not to be confused   
   with Kirlian photography or the gadget that's on the market these days.   
   I didn't track the information down, but I think it's to do with a   
   Dr Kilner - some device that was built, then lost?   
      
   There was the interest in tape recordings of spirit voices, and an electronic   
   device which enable this - a simple circuit back then, when it appeared.   
   I have the old article 'Electronic communication with the dead' somewhere...   
      
   I guess it's narrowing down that part of the electromagnetic spectrum   
   in which things psychic appear?   
   Not being familiar with this area of science - I don't know what the exact   
   story is?   
      
   Beats me why the universities don't investigate pyschic phenomena very   
   closely to advance medical breakthroughs, etc.   
   All they need to do, is monitor someone who sees human auras closely -   
   and see what makes this person different, or what human auras reveal?   
   Though I don't know how many people actually see human auras, say in a city   
   area of 120,000 people? I heard of one person locally --- who may not have   
   that ability anymore?   
      
   These photographs are supposedly genuine. I have a tape of the program in   
   which they appeared - 'Beyond'.   
      
   http://members.tripod.com/~plain2/page-a.htm   
      
      
   Harvey   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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