From: KimbaWLionATaolDOTcom@127.0.0.1   
      
   Elmo  wrote:   
      
   >One thing that practically all NDE's seem to   
   >have in common is that communication is said to not occur the way it   
   >does here.  It's generally described as occurring through feelings, or   
   >some sort of mental telepathy.   
   >   
   >I've always thought that maybe if one here on earth, in human form,   
   >wanted to learn how to communicate with the spiritual world, they   
   >could gain some insight from this. That is to say, communication   
   >between us and the spiritual world might be done in a similar fashion.   
   >How exactly does this work? Can anyone try to explain? Is it possible   
   >for us to learn to communicate with a spirit in the same fashion as   
   >you did while you were on the other side?   
      
   You might want to pose your questions on alt.religion.spiritualism; there   
   are people experienced with spirt communication there.   
      
   I have had that sort of communication in the past, but I can't do it at   
   will, but maybe the reason I can't do it will provide some insight:   
      
   It's scary.   
      
   If you're not completely comfortable with yourself, you shut off the path   
   of communication. At least, that's my problem.   
      
   The first time I experienced spirit communication, the spirit contacted   
   me. He spent several hours surrounding me with love until I forgot about   
   the usual walls I put around myself to keep people from knowing the shame   
   I feel about myself. Then, the communication we had was amazing. Thoughts,   
   questions and ideas were communicated and answered as quickly as I was   
   aware of having those thoughts, questions, and ideas. It was a true   
   meeting of minds.   
      
   You can't think about the process--and this really ties in very well with   
   the older thread about whether animals think about thinking--you can't   
   think about the process without putting up blockades to the process. At   
   least not at the level of inexperience I'm at. When you think that every   
   thought that crosses your mind is available to the other, you become   
   afraid of having the "wrong" thoughts. And then you drop yourself out of   
   communication.   
      
   Of course, I realize I'm very silly because the kind of love I was   
   communicating with would understand whatever thoughts I had. That's why I   
   say that my inability to accept myself is what shut off communication. I   
   am not comfortable with being that open. When you talk, you can choose   
   what to say and when to say it. When you feel that you're broadcasting   
   every thought in your head... you've got no place to hide.   
      
   I did manage to achieve direct mind-to-mind communication _at will_   
   one time, and that time was with another living being. And just to make   
   the story harder to believe, this meeting of minds was with a tiger. A   
   caged tiger who was very afraid. I forgot any thoughts of myself and just   
   wanted to ease her fear, and I think that was my key to success this time.   
   I figured out how to get her undivided attention and managed to   
   communicate to her that she didn't have to be afraid. She immediately   
   dropped her beligerant behavior and became very friendly to me. We even   
   touched noses, as workers at the facility watched from 20 feet away, still   
   afraid to come near her.   
      
   At some point over the years, a person who works as a psychic told me that   
   I had strong psychic abilities but that I shut them off. I didn't   
   understand that at the time, but I do now. I don't know if I'm seeing the   
   rest of the world solely from my perspective or if it really is a   
   universal problem, but I do believe that people generally don't want the   
   openness that's involved in telepathic communication, and thus they hide   
   from it, even though they may not be aware that they're hiding from it.   
      
   The last few years, I've been trying to reverse my lifelong pattern of   
   hiding from everyone else. I'm not a bad person, but I've always been   
   ashamed of myself. I have learned that that comes from a previous life,   
   and the blame that I placed on myself for things that really were beyond   
   my control. But even so, a way of thinking that's been in place for so   
   long is very hard to reverse.   
      
   There you have my viewpoint on your questions, anyway.   
      
      
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