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|    Ken Shaw to All    |
|    Re: Are these experiences real?    |
|    20 Jun 04 04:02:16    |
      XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins       From: none.of@your.biz              CAndersen (Kimba) wrote:              > Richard Smol wrote:       >       >       >>NDEs on operation       >>tables are likely to be caused by Ketamine and Phencyclidine, which are       >>used for anaesthetics.       >       >       > I haven't read about very many dogs reporting NDEs on the operating       > table...       >       > (Note for the humorless: neither is commonly used as an anesthetic outside       > the realm of veterinary medicine. In fact, PCP had a very short life as a       > human anesthetic, being discontinued in the mid 60s--animals had to put up       > with it until the late 70s.)       >              Note for the terminally uninformed: Ketamine was used humans in the US       until 1999 when it was added to the list of completely banned drugs.       Many NDE's reported in the 1970's were from patients under the effect of       Ketamine. A short web search will bring up plenty of documentation on this.              Ken              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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