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|    Steve S. to All    |
|    Re: Proof-Real    |
|    02 Jul 04 16:32:56    |
      XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins       From: ssake@goldthread.com              I would interpret it that mathematics is based on the functioning of the       mind itself, i.e., it is a "chess game". If you stop playing the game, i.e.,       stop the functioning of the mind (throw over the chess board), but retain       consciousness, then the divisions created in conscious awareness by the       mind's functioning disappear and the original unity of reality appears. The       symbols probably represented this principle. Basically, the ultimate peak of       mathematics would be to stop mathematics. In school, my feeling about math       was that it was like slicing up an apple in all kinds of ingenius ways, and       then laboriously putting it back together again, to prove that it was an       apple in the first place. The more ingenius the slicing and dicing, the more       ingenius the methods to put it back together. Personally, it was painful to       me because intrinsically, I didn't believe in it. I didn't want to slice up       the apple in the first place. But that's my bias.              On a positive note, this process can be seen as reflecting the larger       principle of "unconscious unity-to-conscious diversity-to-conscious unity",       and I would guess this is part of what the symbols at the end of the dream       represented graphically.              Steve S.                                   >       > Can you figure out what Kurt Godel was telling Rudy Rucker about the       > nature of       > reality?       >              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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