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   Steve S. to All   
   Re: Proof-Real   
   02 Jul 04 16:32:56   
   
   XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: ssake@goldthread.com   
      
   I would interpret it that mathematics is based on the functioning of the   
   mind itself, i.e., it is a "chess game". If you stop playing the game, i.e.,   
   stop the functioning of the mind (throw over the chess board), but retain   
   consciousness, then the divisions created in conscious awareness by the   
   mind's functioning disappear and the original unity of reality appears. The   
   symbols probably represented this principle. Basically, the ultimate peak of   
   mathematics would be to stop mathematics. In school, my feeling about math   
   was that it was like slicing up an apple in all kinds of ingenius ways, and   
   then laboriously putting it back together again, to prove that it was an   
   apple in the first place. The more ingenius the slicing and dicing, the more   
   ingenius the methods to put it back together. Personally, it was painful to   
   me because intrinsically, I didn't believe in it. I didn't want to slice up   
   the apple in the first place. But that's my bias.   
      
   On a positive note, this process can be seen as reflecting the larger   
   principle of "unconscious unity-to-conscious diversity-to-conscious unity",   
   and I would guess this is part of what the symbols at the end of the dream   
   represented graphically.   
      
   Steve S.   
      
      
      
      
   >   
   > Can you figure out what Kurt Godel was telling Rudy Rucker about the   
   > nature of   
   > reality?   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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