From: suzych@swcp.com   
      
   In article <41122DA7.9080403@yahoo.com>, braindead0_nospam_@yahoo.com   
   wrote:   
      
   > I saw reference to this group on the net somewhere along the line,   
   > thought I'd pop in and share my experience.. I'm not entirely sure it   
   > qualifies as NDE and I don't remember very much at all.   
   >   
   > 2/14/1989 I suffered severe head injuries in an accident, according to   
   > my parents the doctor said my heart had stopped (they don't remember   
   > exactly how long, it was minutes but 1 or 2 or 5.. they aren't sure).  I   
   > never pursued getting any documents related to this as quite frankly I   
   > don't think it really matters much.   
   >   
   > All I can remember is an overriding feeling of peace, I think I was   
   > perfectly ready to go.. no tunnel.. no light.. no voices.. Kind of like   
   > pre-dawn in the middle of an empty desert.   
   >   
   > Woke up 7 days later and the above is all I can remember.  I do know   
   > that I recaptured that feeling once, low sided a motorcycle on a canyon   
   > road at about 45mph and as I was sliding down the road.. I felt the same   
   > peace.   
   >   
   > Pretty much a life changing experience in a variety of ways, most of   
   > which are difficult to express.   
      
   Hmm.  The peaceful acceptance sounds more like the natural endorphin   
   effect that many people report around moments of knowing you are   
   probably going to die and there's nothing you can do about it.  I've   
   seen it likened to the merciful state of shock that often paralyzes prey   
   animals when siezed in the jaws of the predator (although of course   
   nobody gets to ask the dead gazelle if its experience is what we think   
   it is from outside observation).   
      
   I think most people interested in NDE's mean by that term a further   
   stage of the process, in which the spirit actually parts company, for a   
   time, with the body and goes on to have seperate experiences from what   
   the body is undergoing and pointed toward actively completing a   
   permanent relocation of the spirit on another plane, leaving the body   
   behind for good (though of course the reports we get are from people who   
   are turned back or who choose to turn back or who feel themselves pulled   
   back, commonly against their wills, into the body).   
      
   Though who knows what further stages you may have experienced after your   
   head injury and returned with no memory of?   
      
   And you're right, IMO, that in any case it doesn't matter much in the   
   sense that whatever happend, you came back; and although you came back,   
   you know that sooner or later you're going to finish your departure.   
   The "mattering" part is about the changes in the life between the return   
   and the later real death, seems to me, because that's the observable,   
   reportable stuff, that which can be assessed against previous behavior   
   and awareness and therefore they can be discussed in potentially   
   meaningful ways.   
      
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