XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: RaanOne@One.org   
      
   The experiences are real.   
   Your descriptions imply interpretations assumed to be factual and it is your   
   interpretations that are at issue.  Try a statistical analysis and look at   
   the many cases where some vivid sign occurred but it amounted to nothing   
   later.  Be sure to factor in human nature what you are at it.   
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   "Paul Allen Panks"  wrote in message   
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   > I wanted to share my story with your audience. I believe it is a   
   > fascinating story about my encounters with the spirit world. I have no   
   > adequate explanation for them, nor do my parents. I'm not sure what   
   > they represent, or if they are hallucinations, but they appear real.   
   >   
   > I am at a loss to explain why I have seen angels, ghosts, UFOs and   
   > disincarnated entities for over 7 years now. Such entities have included:   
   >   
   > [a] Allen, my father's father.   
   >   
   > [b] Jeff Moritz, the former Flagstaff Peace Officer.   
   >   
   > [c] Robert Martin, the former DPS Peace Officer.   
   >   
   > [c] Ann, my mother's mother and my grandmother.   
   >   
   > [d] James, my mother's father and my grandfather.   
   >   
   > [e] "Susan", a guardian angel who first visited me in October 1995.   
   >   
   > [f] A Siberian Husky, who first appeared the evening my grandmother   
   >     past away (in late-July 2002)   
   >   
   > [g] My unborn daughter, who has appeared frequently since October 2000.   
   >   
   > [h] Lindsey Chainhalt, who first appeared to me last month.   
   >   
   > [i] John Candy, the comedian from various movies   
   >   
   > [j] Walter Payton, the NFL athlete from the Chicago Bears   
   >   
   > [k] An untold number of ghosts and other apparitions, usually in   
   >     graveyards, cemeteries and sometimes during church.   
   >   
   > [l] At least three distinct encounters with angels, two in Flagstaff and   
   >     one while in Paradise Valley.   
   >   
   > [m] One unknown UFO encounter, August 2000, flying overhead   
   >     south-southwest at a low altitude, absolutely silent and with no   
   >     engine noise whatsoever.   
   >   
   > These UFOs flew in formation to form a "triangle", at least seven of them   
   > were present and they distinctly resembled flying saucers seen on   
   > television shows and other UFO reports worldwide.   
   >   
   > I have also experienced at least two OBEs and one NDE, where I entered   
   > into a bright light and was shown flashes of my life while on earth. This   
   > transpired while I had briefly fallen asleep, and then I was returned to   
   > my body at the top of my head, to which I received a tremendous jolt and   
   > gasped for breath. When I finally became oriented again, I felt tense and   
   > not relieved at all. I did not discuss this with anyone because I felt I   
   > was losing my mind, or part of my mind.   
   >   
   > Additionally, I experienced a vision in a dream-like state in which an   
   > angel with a flowing gown brought my unborn daughter to my side, and asked   
   > her when she would like to come to Earth. She was unsure, so the angel   
   > smiled at me and they reentered the light and then the vision and dream   
   > faded away into oblivion.   
   >   
   > In July of 2002, right before my grandmother passed away, I had a strange   
   > dream in which a funeral was taking place and I saw a rose-wood coffin in   
   > the center of a church. There were many people there, and Nana (my   
   > grandmother) was lying in the casket holding a black rose. This was   
   > exactly one week prior to when she did pass away, in July 2002.   
   >   
   > As well as the Siberian Husky encounter, I went on a walk the day of her   
   > passing and she kept trying to communicate to me during my long walk   
   > around Flagstaff. I walked from my apartment complex over to Target, and   
   > then around the graveyard near the back of target (I usually prayed at the   
   > statue of Jesus and Mary in the back of the graveyard; I believe it is   
   > called "Cavalry Cemetery").   
   >   
   > When I prayed there, I asked Nana for help and advice. She said that she   
   > "loved me", and asked that I go to the end of a long road, near a bench,   
   and   
   > there I would find a gift. I followed her instructions (she sounded very   
   > far away, and I could barely understand her), I went to the bench I   
   > thought she was telling me about and found a Cabbage Patch doll sitting on   
   > the bench. It was a simple Cabbage Patch doll, wearing a yellow outfit and   
   > diapers. It must have rained recently, because the bench was still soggy   
   > and the doll was as well. I went home and told my friend about   
   > this, and we took the doll home. In fact, I still have the doll to   
   > this day. I'm not sure why my grandmother led me to this doll, or what   
   > significance it has in my life (if any).   
   >   
   > In September of 2003, I also had another dream, in which I was walking   
   > through Nana and Hoppo's house looking for them. The entire house was void   
   > of people, and as I was looking around, I remember in the dream that I   
   > looked up at the grandfather clock in the living room and it struck 9 p.m.   
   > As it was sounding the chimes, the phone rang in the dream, and I rushed   
   > to pick it up. No one was there, however.   
   >   
   > In a later dream, just before my grandfather, James, passed away,   
   > I had yet another dream in which my grandmother tried to call me on the   
   > telephone and was attempting to explain something to me, but I couldn't   
   > understand her. I still have no idea what she was attempting to   
   > communicate, but she appeared more lively than at any point during the   
   > past fifteen years.   
   >   
   > I have also experienced several psychic "flashes" of information, all of   
   > which have come true to some degree. Before she and I broke up, in March   
   > of 2003 (after over two years together), I had a strange psychic flash   
   > that I would be sleeping alone in my bed in Flagstaff, that it would be   
   > the spring of 2003, and that my friend and I would no longer be friends.   
   > This came true. I also had another psychic "flash" 6 months later, in   
   which   
   > my friend's father raised a glass in toast to me at some sort of wedding,   
   > which (from the flash) appeared to take place in the near future. However,   
   > he was toasting me, not anyone else, which led me to infer that from this   
   > psychic flash I may be picking up information from an event in the cosmic   
   > stream that has yet to occur.   
   >   
   > I don't know what all of these experiences mean, nor do I understand them   
   > at all. I don't have adequate explanations for why ghosts, as well as   
   > deceased individuals, feel the need to communicate to me on a daily basis.   
   > I find it unsettling, to say the least. I feel as though I am a conduit   
   > for communication between the living world and the spirit world, and I   
   > don't want to be. I don't need to communicate with them, because they   
      
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