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   From: suzych@swcp.com   
      
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   KimbaWLionATaolDOTcom@127.0.0.1 wrote:   
      
   > "Raan"  wrote:   
   >   
   > >It is the interpretations that need   
   > >proving and until a provable interpretation is offered none of it means   
   > >much   
   > >of anything and its just a matter of belief, nothing more.   
   >   
   > Going beyond belief would probably include research and in if you had   
   > read   
   > the literature on the subject you would have discovered that "near death"   
   > is in fact a misnomer, but we're stuck with it. These experiences   
   > generally involve real, clinical death with later reviving. No one seems   
   > to have come up with a catchy term that means died, but alive again.   
   >   
   > At the point of death, consciousness separates from the body and that's   
   > when the so-called "supernatural" phenomena are experienced. Those who   
   > claim that drugs can reproduce the NDE are misled by the similar-sounding   
   > natures of the two experiences. Our language is woefully inadequate for   
   > describing things of a spiritual nature.   
   >   
   > To get a full picture of what goes on in an NDE (besides actually having   
   > one), one needs to look beyond the NDE and correlate it with other   
   > psychic   
   > and spiritual experiences. There really is a big picture that makes   
   > logical sense.   
      
   I like your approach.   
      
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