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   From: RaanOne@One.org   
      
   "Card XII"  wrote in message   
   news:KoTSc.2684$LN3.1677@news02.roc.ny...   
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   > "Raan"  wrote in message   
   > news:VWSSc.20541$a65.915087@news20.bellglobal.com...   
   > > The experiences are real.   
   > > Your descriptions imply interpretations assumed to be factual and it is   
   > your   
   > > interpretations that are at issue.  Try a statistical analysis and look   
   at   
   > > the many cases where some vivid sign occurred but it amounted to nothing   
   > > later.  Be sure to factor in human nature what you are at it.   
   > > --   
   > >                >   
   > >   
   > > "Paul Allen Panks"  wrote in message   
   > > news:caqt1l$550$1@chessie.cirr.com...   
   > > > I wanted to share my story with your audience. I believe it is a   
   > > > fascinating story about my encounters with the spirit world. I have no   
   > > > adequate explanation for them, nor do my parents. I'm not sure what   
   > > > they represent, or if they are hallucinations, but they appear real.   
   > > >   
   > > > I am at a loss to explain why I have seen angels, ghosts, UFOs and   
   > > > disincarnated entities for over 7 years now. Such entities have   
   > included:   
   > > >   
   > > > [a] Allen, my father's father.   
   > > >   
   > > > [b] Jeff Moritz, the former Flagstaff Peace Officer.   
   > > >   
   > > > [c] Robert Martin, the former DPS Peace Officer.   
   > > >   
   > > > [c] Ann, my mother's mother and my grandmother.   
   > > >   
   > > > [d] James, my mother's father and my grandfather.   
   > > >   
   > > > [e] "Susan", a guardian angel who first visited me in October 1995.   
   > > >   
   > > > [f] A Siberian Husky, who first appeared the evening my grandmother   
   > > >     past away (in late-July 2002)   
   > > >   
   > > > [g] My unborn daughter, who has appeared frequently since October   
   2000.   
   > > >   
   > > > [h] Lindsey Chainhalt, who first appeared to me last month.   
   > > >   
   > > > [i] John Candy, the comedian from various movies   
   > > >   
   > > > [j] Walter Payton, the NFL athlete from the Chicago Bears   
   > > >   
   > > > [k] An untold number of ghosts and other apparitions, usually in   
   > > >     graveyards, cemeteries and sometimes during church.   
   > > >   
   > > > [l] At least three distinct encounters with angels, two in Flagstaff   
   and   
   > > >     one while in Paradise Valley.   
   > > >   
   > > > [m] One unknown UFO encounter, August 2000, flying overhead   
   > > >     south-southwest at a low altitude, absolutely silent and with no   
   > > >     engine noise whatsoever.   
   > > >   
   > > > These UFOs flew in formation to form a "triangle", at least seven of   
   > them   
   > > > were present and they distinctly resembled flying saucers seen on   
   > > > television shows and other UFO reports worldwide.   
   > > >   
   > > > I have also experienced at least two OBEs and one NDE, where I entered   
   > > > into a bright light and was shown flashes of my life while on earth.   
   > This   
   > > > transpired while I had briefly fallen asleep, and then I was returned   
   to   
   > > > my body at the top of my head, to which I received a tremendous jolt   
   and   
   > > > gasped for breath. When I finally became oriented again, I felt tense   
   > and   
   > > > not relieved at all. I did not discuss this with anyone because I felt   
   I   
   > > > was losing my mind, or part of my mind.   
   > > >   
   > > > Additionally, I experienced a vision in a dream-like state in which an   
   > > > angel with a flowing gown brought my unborn daughter to my side, and   
   > asked   
   > > > her when she would like to come to Earth. She was unsure, so the angel   
   > > > smiled at me and they reentered the light and then the vision and   
   dream   
   > > > faded away into oblivion.   
   > > >   
   > > > In July of 2002, right before my grandmother passed away, I had a   
   > strange   
   > > > dream in which a funeral was taking place and I saw a rose-wood coffin   
   > in   
   > > > the center of a church. There were many people there, and Nana (my   
   > > > grandmother) was lying in the casket holding a black rose. This was   
   > > > exactly one week prior to when she did pass away, in July 2002.   
   > > >   
   > > > As well as the Siberian Husky encounter, I went on a walk the day of   
   her   
   > > > passing and she kept trying to communicate to me during my long walk   
   > > > around Flagstaff. I walked from my apartment complex over to Target,   
   and   
   > > > then around the graveyard near the back of target (I usually prayed at   
   > the   
   > > > statue of Jesus and Mary in the back of the graveyard; I believe it is   
   > > > called "Cavalry Cemetery").   
   > > >   
   > > > When I prayed there, I asked Nana for help and advice. She said that   
   she   
   > > > "loved me", and asked that I go to the end of a long road, near a   
   bench,   
   > > and   
   > > > there I would find a gift. I followed her instructions (she sounded   
   very   
   > > > far away, and I could barely understand her), I went to the bench I   
   > > > thought she was telling me about and found a Cabbage Patch doll   
   sitting   
   > on   
   > > > the bench. It was a simple Cabbage Patch doll, wearing a yellow outfit   
   > and   
   > > > diapers. It must have rained recently, because the bench was still   
   soggy   
   > > > and the doll was as well. I went home and told my friend about   
   > > > this, and we took the doll home. In fact, I still have the doll to   
   > > > this day. I'm not sure why my grandmother led me to this doll, or what   
   > > > significance it has in my life (if any).   
   > > >   
   > > > In September of 2003, I also had another dream, in which I was walking   
   > > > through Nana and Hoppo's house looking for them. The entire house was   
   > void   
   > > > of people, and as I was looking around, I remember in the dream that I   
   > > > looked up at the grandfather clock in the living room and it struck 9   
   > p.m.   
   > > > As it was sounding the chimes, the phone rang in the dream, and I   
   rushed   
   > > > to pick it up. No one was there, however.   
   > > >   
   > > > In a later dream, just before my grandfather, James, passed away,   
   > > > I had yet another dream in which my grandmother tried to call me on   
   the   
   > > > telephone and was attempting to explain something to me, but I   
   couldn't   
   > > > understand her. I still have no idea what she was attempting to   
   > > > communicate, but she appeared more lively than at any point during the   
   > > > past fifteen years.   
   > > >   
   > > > I have also experienced several psychic "flashes" of information, all   
   of   
   > > > which have come true to some degree. Before she and I broke up, in   
   March   
   > > > of 2003 (after over two years together), I had a strange psychic flash   
   > > > that I would be sleeping alone in my bed in Flagstaff, that it would   
   be   
   > > > the spring of 2003, and that my friend and I would no longer be   
   friends.   
   > > > This came true. I also had another psychic "flash" 6 months later, in   
   > > which   
   > > > my friend's father raised a glass in toast to me at some sort of   
   > wedding,   
      
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