XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins
From: sfct@aol.com
Kermit wrote:
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> stevefct wrote in message news:<4124AED4.4143@aol.com>...
> > Raan wrote:
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> > > "stevefct" wrote in message news:4122F7C7.73EE@aol.com...
> > > > Raan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "olive" wrote in message news:41218DE
.29A4@aol.com...
> > > > > > Raan wrote:
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> > > It is your view that is limited since you cannot even imagine how
> > > statistically, prophetic dreams seldom do in fact result in any actual
> > > occurrence so that when one dream seems to do so you are limited to
thinking
> > > it to be some sort of proof of anything. If I have an agenda it is to
> > > prevent idiotic believe based prejudice from running rampant. It seems
to
> > > me that you are the one with an agenda hoping to advocate your own
precious
> > > idealistic beliefs and avoid the facts of reality as they do in fact
present
> > > themselves daily.
> > > --
> > > >
> >
> >
> > I answered your questions under Von Smith's post. This is getting too
> > confusing for the average reader. It is way too sloppy. Why would anyone
> > waste his time trying to read it.
>
> Some of us have a morbid attraction to car accidents and certain
> threads.
>
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Some of us? Meaning you? Wouldn't assume that for a group of readers
interested in the topic of NDEs.
Once you had one, you kind of soften up to others. But that is a later
experience for you. Isn't it?
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> > Also, can't you understand my points? You argue some points I didn't
> > make and miss many of the ones I did make. Did I get too deep for you?
>
> Doesn't appear that way to this lurker.
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Where else do you lurk?
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> >
> > So how is your agenda in keeping the public from learning how to harness
> > their latent ESP abilities going?
>
> What latent ESP abilities?
>
> > Are they scaring you yet? It will be
> > hard to keep your secrets from them sooner or later. You know they'll
> > judge you on what you've been doing in secret. Feeling secure behind
> > closed doors.
>
> An imagination unleavened by reality is not necessarily a good thing.
> Do you lie awake at night, imagining these anti-ESP conspiracies? Or
> did you pay somebody your hard-earned cash for a book which told you
> about these plots?
>
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What ESP abilities? Told you already, either you don't read properly, or
you filter whatever doesn't fit your little boxed view of reality.
Boy, what a lack of humor on your part. Typical lack of imagination in
your thinking, wouldn't you say?
You know what the experts think? No imagination leads to no creative
thinking. What you know, is only what you've been taught.
Spinning the same ideas over and over again in your head. Without any
new creative insights on your own.
So much like your thinking, isn't it?
But about any anti-ESP conspiracies. I used to lurk in three different
athestic newsgroups a few years ago. They presented themselves as
experts with all sorts of lame-brained/retarded views on cognitive
science. In the beginning they welcomed me. Welcomed my arguments about
the brain/perception.
Later when I started to win the arguments. When some of the readers
started to openly question their atheistic views. Do you know they did
at these open-minded newsgroups did? They blacklisted me. I was no
longer welcome. You know, you would almost suspect a conspiracy in my
shoes?
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> > By the way, did you know emotional bonding is very important to
> > establish ESP links between souls?
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> It doesn't surprise me at all that emotional bonds are statistically
> linked to dreams, thought, and feelings about a person.
>
> What ESP links?
>
> > That is why you always hear of people
> > having dreams or feelings about loved ones being in trouble, and not
> > with strangers or people they dislike.
>
> We worry about our loved ones. Is this supposed to be a revelation?
> How many of these worried dreams and thoughts are *not associated with
> tragic events? I dreamt about my cat getting lost in the city last
> week. Guess what? She's still around; not lost.
>
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You have an amazing ability to not put facts together. Lets get off the
case 'of you'. You don't come across as an open-mined person.
Also, if you would have looked into dreaming about future events, you
might have figured out that people who experience psychic dreams are
able to distinguish between psychic dreams and non-psychic ones. Or
hasn't this obvious insight not appeared in your un-imaginative view of
reality yet? Did you think/assume psychics always have psychic dreams
and no others? Not any of the junk variety which apparently haunts your
dream landscape. Of course we have them both types. Junk ones dominate.
I suspect most dreams are concerned with processing information which
occupied the brain that day. Another aspect about psychic dreams are
that they can be about something/someone you haven't thought about in
years. Or something entirely new, with nothing in your background
experience to account for it.
Psychic dreams have a different perceptual quality about them. Not that
you would know. Its like seeing colors, instead of a simple/dry black
and white picture. But the most important difference which makes itself
readily apparent is this, when you have an ordinary dream and wake up,
if you remember the dream, you sense/know your mind conjured the dream
up. Not that you'll know any of this while you're dreaming. Just once
you wake. You'll know everything you experienced, everything you saw or
felt, was all made up inside the domain of your mind.
But when you have psychic dreams, when you wake up, you sense/know the
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