XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: mightymartianca@hotmail.com   
      
   david ford wrote:   
   > "Raan"  wrote in message news:...   
   >   
   >>"david ford"  wrote in message news:dford3   
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   >>   
   >>>nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com (Nick Keighley) wrote in message   
   news:...   
   >>>   
   >>>>"Raan"  wrote in message news:...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>"Nick Keighley"  wrote in message   
   news:aed14a74.0408281538.2cf45017@posting.google.com...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>"Raan"  wrote in message news:...   
   >>   
   >>>>>>>Never before have our challenges been so great.  Never has   
   >>>>>>>your support   
   >>>>>>>been so important.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Secular humanism offers an alternative to dogmatism.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>the trouble is, posts like yours lead us to believe that "secular   
   >>>>>>humanism" *is* dogmatism.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>How do you figure that and why do I need to ask this since you could   
   >>>>>just as well have explained yourself.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I suspect since you have to ask that you won't agree. Your original post   
   >>>>sounds like preaching. You even ask for money at the end!   
   >>>   
   >>>Religions typically need money to continue to survive.  The religion   
   >>>of secular humanism is no exception.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>You try to conflate "science and reason" with "secularism and humanism".   
   >>>   
   >>>Like secular humanism, other religions often claim that "science" is   
   >>>on their side.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>I find the statement "Much of the progress of the twentieth century can   
   >>>>be directly attributed to the rise of secularism and humanism"   
   >>>>contentious.   
   >>>   
   >>>If "progress" equals "mass killing," then the statement is accurate.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>I'm left wondering if you had religious upbringing.   
   >>   
   >>When do you begin to froth at the mouth?   
   >   
   >   
   > Now:  It is a fact, Fact, FACT, FACT!!!!!! that [Sagan]"THE COSMOS IS   
   > ALL THAT IS OR EVER WAS OR EVER WILL BE."!!!!!!!!!!!   
   > When are those IDiot IDeologue advocates of IDiocy going to wake up   
   > and recognize the *scientific* **FACT** that [Sagan]"THE COSMOS IS ALL   
   > THAT IS OR EVER WAS OR EVER WILL BE."???!!??   
      
   David, you are as sick as our secular humanist friend.  Both of you have   
   a terrible disease of the mind, and I'd pity you both, if you both   
   weren't bent on destroying a reasonable, co-operative society that   
   welcomed diversity, rather than trying to squash it.   
      
   --   
   Aaron Clausen   
   mightymartianca@hotmail.com   
      
   WOODY: How's it going Mr. Peterson?   
   NORM : It's a dog eat dog world out there, Woody, and I'm wearing   
           milkbone underwear.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)