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   stevefct to Dorian West   
   Re: Why must God be good?   
   01 Sep 04 00:12:07   
   
   XPost: alt.paranormal.reincarnation   
   From: sfct@aol.com   
   To: no@no.com   
      
   Dorian West wrote:   
   >   
   > We talk of God - Christian, Muslim, Hindu, pagan, Celtic, Nordic and so on.   
   > Why must these gods be good? Why is God good and not evil? How do we know   
   > he's good? The world we live in seems a very, very brutal place and even if   
   > evil were necessary as a logical complement to good, evil is still hideously   
   > evil.   
      
      
      
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   Boy, can I ever explain this one. And you're right, the world is both,   
   evil and good.   
      
      
   I'll give you you 2 postings to answer this question. First perspective   
   will be what I learned with my own NDE. The second will be from ideas I   
   had since then. Very different ideas than anything you've thought about   
   before, I'm sure.   
      
      
      
   NDEs and the WHITE LIGHT :   
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   One other thing though. How does someone become as curious about this   
   stuff as me? Well, you have to experience this for a few minutes. That   
   is when any smug and simplified outlook on life evaporates very quickly.   
   And some buried inner feeling that you kind of knew this all along,   
   which your trained and all too caged mental perspective kept you from   
   really believing in. And then? You start thinking on your own. Any smug   
   arrogance on what is real is the only thing which died when you did. If   
   you're lucky that is.   
      
   How does it feel? Been a while for me. I'll give you bite size pieces of   
   it.   
      
   MY NDE   
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    	It feels realer than anything you ever felt before in your short life   
   here. You're aware of the state and that you're supposed to be dead.   
   You're also aware ...but you're not. Seems very natural to be composed   
   of pure thought since you see reality itself is. You also feel more   
   alive than you ever did on your best day when you were encased in a   
   physical body. That body never felt like a prison before, but now it   
   does.  You know/sense you're immortal. What you are can't die anymore   
   than a number can be wiped out.  You feel free, warm, and happy to be   
   back in your natural state. You sense that you existed long before you   
   entered your human body. It isn't, your body was born, your soul grew   
   with it and you were released with death from it, nope, you did this   
   many times before. You earned your way to becoming a human and climbed a   
   long long ladder of life. Many deaths and many lives. All contributing   
   to what you're still becoming. Nothing you ever felt in this life can   
   match the white light. Its alive with an indescribable love. And you're   
   part of it, always were. This place you sense is where all places   
   originate from.   
      
   You're back to the heart of reality. ALIVENESS RUNS DEEPEST. There is no   
   denial of death, you're more alive without a brain telling you what you   
   can think and how well.   
      
   	But you know the world served a purpose. It was there where your   
   individuality could develop. Where you could be your own person. Where   
   you could get away from knowing God is right over your shoulder. You   
   forgot about being a soul to develop character and inner spiritual   
   strength with hardship down here. This place wasn't intended to be a joy   
   trip, but we strive to make it so[a good thing]. Just one of the   
   challenges we set up for ourselves to spiritually grow with personal   
   experience. Personal experience is best way souls grow. They crave it   
   like bodies crave food and sex.   
      
      
      
      
   The second posting will be longer and more full of new ideas.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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