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   Message 1,827 of 2,497   
   Atman to Abner Mintz   
   Re: Council for Secular Humanism   
   02 Sep 04 05:41:29   
   
   XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: Be@here.now   
      
   On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:51:17 +0000 (UTC), abnermintz@earthlink.net   
   (Abner Mintz) wrote:   
      
   >Atman  wrote:   
   >> Secular Humanism has received a bad name due to actions taken by   
   >> Communist states under the banner of state sponsored Secular Humanism.   
   >   
   >Um ... When did the communist states do *anything* in the   
   > name of secular humanism?  If you have any evidence to   
   > support this claim, I'd like to see it.   
      
   The Communist Manifesto and Secular Humanism agree on many points in   
   relation to religion, and have, therefore, been linked in the minds of   
   many people.  You may not agree with the linkage, but your agreement   
   or disagree does not change many people's views.   
      
   So does your version of Secular Humanism support religious freedom for   
   all.  Not the "freedom from religion" that some propose, but true   
   freedom of religion where all points can be expressed and debated   
   openly in public forums?  If it does then Secular Humanism is   
   progressing positively.  If not, then it's just another misguided,   
   repressive ideology in my view.   
      
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