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   From: lite12noSPAM@hotmail.NOspam   
      
   LH wrote:   
   > "Alan B. Mac Farlane"  wrote in message   
   > news:BD55CDFE.291A%alanb@sonic.net...   
   >   
   >>in article cgpjb8$2nbs$4@news.cybercity.dk, Laura at laura@nospam.me wrote   
   >>on 8/28/04 2:30 AM:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>>My God dont kill unborn children ... and my God dont screw around   
   >   
   > either.   
   >   
   > No, they choose to experience death before birth.   We're all little pieces   
   > of God and we "screw around", therefore, God screws around.   
   >   
   >   
   >>>Isn't that contradictory? I mean, if life starts at birth, then how can   
   >   
   > an   
   >   
   >>>unborn child possibly be killed?   
   >>>Or maybe I'm misunderstanding your point?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>Hi Laura ... if life starts are birth - then a still born is murder ... a   
   >>spontanous abortion is murder ... a man made abortion is murder --- all   
   >   
   > are   
   >   
   >>dead bodies after conception since in some minds God made the unborn child   
   >>alive at conception ...   
   >   
   >   
   > Sorry, but by definition, doesn't murder involve at least two people?   
   >   
   >   
   >>If so - then God kills stillborns.   
   >   
   >   
   > No, they choose to experience death in the womb, that's all.  The mother   
   > chooses to experience a still born birth.  It's all about choices and   
   > experience.   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >>However in Mosaic law from the God of Abraham says - if the pregnant woman   
   >>dies then wound for wound, life for life, soul for soul must be given up   
   >>from the person who killed her ... she has the breath of life in her, she   
   >>has soul, praetikus ... not the unborn child ... it is dead and will   
   >   
   > remain   
   >   
   >>dead until God makes it come alive.   
   >   
   >   
   > Aw yes, the vengeful God.   
   >   
   > The greatest failing of Christianity was the idea that you can't talk to   
   > God, you must come to the church and we can talk to God for you, for money   
   > of course.  The truth is that we are all God and God is all-that-is.  Once   
   > you get that, then you see that it is impossible to sin.  In fact, if sin   
   > existed, then the one true sin would be to create a God in mans image.  That   
   > is the height of arrogance, yet that is what Christianity did...  All the   
   > doings of man are simply the all-that-is experiencing life in human form on   
   > planet Earth.  There are no victims, all is done with full knowledge of   
   > those involved on some level of their being(not always a level their   
   > conscious of, obviously).  Does that mean that I encourage murder, rape,   
   > theft etc.  No, I don't.  I encourage choices.  There are two types of   
   > choices, those that make you happy and those that make you feel bad.   
   > However, you have freewill to feel bad if you want too, simply make the   
   > choice.  Perhaps you need to pick some other phrases from the Bible to look   
   > at.  "Judge not, lest ye be judged", "Yee are Gods".  The good ones are   
   > short.  The long ones are generally someone trying to control someone else.   
   >   
   > Good luck on your explorations,   
   > Lonnie   
   >   
   >   
      
   I am saving these quotes,   
      
   "...the one true sin would be to create a God in mans image." --Lonnie   
      
   "The greatest failing of Christianity was the idea that you can't talk   
   to God" --Lonnie   
      
   -Grant   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)