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   Steve S. to KimbaWLionATaolDOTcom@127.0.0.1   
   Re: NDEs authors, experiences, etc: WHY?   
   12 Sep 04 11:24:14   
   
   From: ssake@goldthread.com   
      
   The charge that it is all imagination comes back on them when they find that   
   their seemingly solid reality is imagination. This is no laughing matter,   
   because usually this is a very hard lesson (since one's sense of   
   social/physical reality is deeply ingrained from all the lives we've lived   
   up to that point). Usually it involves experiencing tragedies of various   
   kinds. I think those of us who are interested in the whole subject of death   
   have been through them or we wouldn't be here.   
   Steve S.   
      
      
      
   "CAndersen (Kimba)"  wrote in message   
   news:ch43k010ebr34igaokupqfeake4v70ls09@4ax.com...   
   > "Steve S."  wrote:   
   >   
   > >This comment really amused me ;-)   
   > >   
   > >>I have no ethical or intellectual problem   
   > >> with being the world's leading expert on my own life and experiences;   
   > >> it's just amazing how many other people want that job.   
   >   
   > Thanks. :)   
   >   
   > I'm glad you also realized that the comment is a result of the journey you   
   > described. It is a confidence arrived at after a long trip through   
   > self-doubt and self-testing, and with a lot of help and support from   
   > others. Correlating and weighing the evidence, and trusting that other   
   > people can be experts on their own experiences, too, is the work that's   
   > involved.   
   >   
   > Saying the same thing to a group of evangelistic disbelievers would   
   > probably elicit the response that I just wrapped myself up in my   
   > imagination. They don't seem to realize that "It's just imagination" is   
   > only one of the two signposts at the very beginning of the journey, and   
   > that the one that says "It is real" marks the far more interesting,   
   > stimulating, and liberating path.   
   >   
   >   
   > --   
   > Reply address munged. You can figure it out.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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