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   Message 1,875 of 2,497   
   bckwrds to Uncle Davey   
   Re: Council for Secular Humanism   
   13 Sep 04 00:45:11   
   
   XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: bckwrds@theriver.com   
      
   "Uncle Davey"  wrote in message   
   news:ci286i$gf2$0@pita.alt.net...   
   >   
   > Użytkownik "bckwrds"  napisał w wiadomości   
   > news:ci1p38$f6o$0$216.39.143.27@theriver.com...   
   > >   
   > > "AC"  wrote in message   
   > > news:2qhm0cFvqiumU1@uni-berlin.de...   
   > >   
   > > [major snippage to get to the point]   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > > > Atheism would not exist in any cultures where it not for the   
   > free-will,   
   > > > > faith-based way   
   > > > > That Christ has chosen to redeem us.   
   > > >   
   > > > Atheism exists because some people don't believe in God.  Hinduism   
   > > > exists because some people believe in at least some members of the   
   Hindu   
   > > > pantheon, etc. ad nauseum.   
   > > >   
   > > > > There are no atheist angels, and no atheist demons.   
   > > >   
   > > > CAn you provide me with any emperical evidence that any of these   
   beings   
   > > > exist, Davey?  Perhaps you missed one of the key p   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > 1) should have died in a head on car crash...only room for two cars on   
   > this   
   > > road and I was the third....my car got a cratch in the point.  It was   
   > > unbelieveable.   
   > > I got out and looked my car over and over again....nothing was wrong.   
   > >   
   > > 2) was caught in the riptide with my sister as a young child.  We both   
   > > screamed to our mom on the shore that we couldn't get in....that we were   
   > > both being pushed further and further into the ocean. I could only   
   barely   
   > > touch the bottom with my tippy toes when I went under.   
   > >  I said "God, help me!" God told me to take my sisters hand and walk in.   
   > > I did just that and walked right in.   
   > >   
   > > 3) Playing at my aunts home.  Some cousins grapped a hold of an electric   
   > > fence that my uncle had rigged so that the power never went off and had   
   > > it at some super power level to keep his cows in.  This cousin found   
   > himself   
   > > stuck to the line.  His brother grapped him to help pull him off only to   
   > > find himself stuck....another person grapped onto him to help with the   
   > > same result.  Three kids now being electrocuted in front of us all.  I   
   > asked   
   > > God "what should I do???"  God told me to grap by cousins hand and   
   > > to leaned back.  I did just that and we all came tumbling free.  Note   
   that   
   > > God didn't tell me to put my head down and plow into the first cousin   
   > > to knock them all free....but to grap hold of a hand and pull them   
   off...   
   > > exactly what had caused them all to be stuck.  I not only listened, but   
   > > obeyed.   
   > >   
   > > It's called angels.   
   > >   
   > > It's called God.   
   > >   
   > > It's called the love of my Father.   
   > >   
   > > It's called faith.   
   > >   
   > > many many stories are on the news day after day after year after year.   
   > >   
   > > Mystics?  HA   
   > >   
   >   
   > It doesn't matter how many cases of this there are in the lives of people   
   > they know and even in their own lives, they will choose to ignore them   
   under   
   > the banner of rationalism.   
   >   
   > One time I was driving on the road and one car overtaking me like a maniac   
   > had a head on collision with another car coming the other way. Both cars   
   > spun around and came to a halt in the road one in front of me and one   
   behind   
   > me, each facing back the way they came. Since the road was not broad   
   enough   
   > for them to spin around like that next to me without hitting me I could   
   not   
   > work out how it had happened, and to this day there seems only one   
   > explanation.   
   >   
   > Uncle Davey   
      
      
   yes, only one explanation by one whom believes.   
      
   There are reasons for everything....we may not know them....but   
   there are reasons.   
      
   bckwrds   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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