XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins
From: johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au
Susan S wrote:
> In talk.origins I read this message from Double Felix
> :
>
> >In article , "Uncle Davey"
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Użytkownik "bckwrds" napisa" w wiadomości
> >> news:ci1p38$f6o$0$216.39.143.27@theriver.com...
> >> >
> >> > "AC" wrote in message
> >> > news:2qhm0cFvqiumU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >> >
> >> > [major snippage to get to the point]
> >> >
...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 1) should have died in a head on car crash...only room for two cars
> >> > on this road and I was the third....my car got a cratch in the point.
> >> > It was unbelieveable.
> >> > I got out and looked my car over and over again....nothing was wrong.
I got caught in an accident on a motorbike once, should have been
decapitated by the truck tray, but miraculously, I avoided it (felt the
wind as my neck passed it). But I was an agnostic then (and now). Who
should I praise?
> >> >
> >> > 2) was caught in the riptide with my sister as a young child. We
> >> > both screamed to our mom on the shore that we couldn't get in....that
> >> > we were both being pushed further and further into the ocean. I could
> >> > only barely touch the bottom with my tippy toes when I went under.
> >> > I said "God, help me!" God told me to take my sisters hand and walk
> >> > in. I did just that and walked right in.
I got caught in a rip when I was a kid. A man came and got me. All
praise the lifesaving club! At 5 I was an unbeliever, too.
> >> >
> >> > 3) Playing at my aunts home. Some cousins grapped a hold of an
> >> > electric fence that my uncle had rigged so that the power never went
> >> > off and had it at some super power level to keep his cows in. This
> >> > cousin found himself stuck to the line. His brother grapped him to
> >> > help pull him off only to find himself stuck....another person
> >> > grapped onto him to help with the same result. Three kids now being
> >> > electrocuted in front of us all. I asked God "what should I do???"
> >> > God told me to grap by cousins hand and to leaned back. I did just
> >> > that and we all came tumbling free. Note that God didn't tell me to
> >> > put my head down and plow into the first cousin to knock them all
> >> > free....but to grap hold of a hand and pull them off... exactly what
> >> > had caused them all to be stuck. I not only listened, but obeyed.
My brother grabbed hold of wires he had stuck into a power point (and
*we* have 220v mains). I screamed for my mum and she saved his life. I
didn't try to take it off him myself, or I'd have been electrocuted too.
Praise... errr.. common sense? The people who routinely told us not to
touch electrical power sources? I was an unbeliever at 8 too.
> >> >
> >> > It's called angels.
> >> >
> >> > It's called God.
> >> >
> >> > It's called the love of my Father.
> >> >
> >> > It's called faith.
> >> >
> >> > many many stories are on the news day after day after year after year.
> >> >
> >> > Mystics? HA
Everything you describe happened in a similar fashion to me. I do not
believe in God. So, am I protected by ignorant angels because I'm an
agnostic?
The fact is, Davey, if someone survives to tell the tale, then they can
thank any higher power they like. But those who do not are not around to
point out that this same higher power failed to protect *them* despite
their faith.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It doesn't matter how many cases of this there are in the lives of
> >> people they know and even in their own lives, they will choose to
> >> ignore them under the banner of rationalism.
> >>
> >> One time I was driving on the road and one car overtaking me like a
> >> maniac had a head on collision with another car coming the other way.
> >> Both cars spun around and came to a halt in the road one in front of me
> >> and one behind me, each facing back the way they came. Since the road
> >> was not broad enough for them to spin around like that next to me
> >> without hitting me I could not work out how it had happened, and to
> >> this day there seems only one explanation.
Yep. Dumb luck. Happens all the time someone survives a nasty accident.
> >>
> >> Uncle Davey
> >
> >That God wanted you to be in the middle of a car wreck unharmed?
> >
> > - Felix
>
> And does it follow then, that God wants those who are injured or
> killed in auto accidents to be so?
>
I believe one of the greek writers noted that there are no shrines to
those gods who failed to save the drowned sailors...
--
John S. Wilkins john@wilkins.id.au
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
God cheats
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