XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins
From: nick@SKIPTHESECAPSbackpack.com
In article , "Uncle Davey"
wrote:
> Użytkownik "Double Felix" napisał w
> wiadomości news:nick-3FED67.23350114092004@news.west.cox.net...
> > In article , "Uncle Davey"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Użytkownik "Susan S" napisał w wiadomości
> > > news:mrqbk0h4dgaragjme0ilb08cv981d81ctf@4ax.com...
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > And does it follow then, that God wants those who are injured or
> > > > killed in auto accidents to be so?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well Sue, there are those he allows to be and those he doesn't. That is
> > > implicit in any such belief in an intervening deity. It is difficult to
be a
> > > sentimentalist and yet believe in a God who is still involved in events
on
> > > this planet.
> > >
> > > Uncle Davey
> >
> > The general rule is, if some unexpected *good* event occurs, it's
> > because God was watching out for you.
> >
> > If some unexpected *bad* event occurs, it's because God moves in
> > mysterious ways.
> >
> > Did I get it right?
> >
> > - Felix
>
> Not far off.
>
> It says "all things work together for good to them that love God, to them
> that are called according to his promise". That means that all the things
> which go bad along the way are there so that in the end everything can come
> right for God's people. If salvation were not of faith in the face of
> overwhelming reasons to the contrary, that would be rather pointless, of
> course, but as it is it makes perfect sense to me.
Well, I guess the point I was trying to make is that it's very subjective
when we can understand God's intervention and when we can't.
> It doesn't make any such promises for those who are unelect, mind you.
>
> But if you come to God, you won't be cast out. It means you are in the
> elect.
>
> So, oddly enough, it's up to you whether you are in the elect or not.
> Uncle Davey
Until Roger comes along and informs you that you're not!
- Felix
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