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|    Message 1,933 of 2,497    |
|    Alan B. Mac Farlane to dan__gunn@hotmail.com    |
|    Re: NDE and my beliefs in God    |
|    20 Sep 04 14:42:04    |
      XPost: alt.religion.christian.20-something, alt.agnosticism       From: alanb@sonic.net              Dear Mr Gunn ...              It seems you leave out the part on driving the wrong way down a highway ...       and manslaughter charges --- and the DUI ... that made all this happen.              The Alcoholic mindset is what you are speaking about ... and 180 degrees       from sick is still sick - an abreaction - an abnormal reaction.              Inside where you feel that rejection and the other untoward stuff - all that       icky stuff inside - is not love, peace, grace, happyness, joy inside you are       carrying around ...              Keep working your recovery and integrating your drug alcohol fueled NDE and       fear based life style ... into a love based lifestyle.              The learning curve is a bit flat at first - but it picks up after awhile ...       in your missive you a toss away the baby and the bathwater - effectively       killing both spirituality and religion.              Spirit and Re-legairie (means to "tie back") are two different things.              The first is timeless - the other is made by man as you so noted.              IMO and all that rot...              sumbuddie hopes this helps              :)                     in article d083bb36.0409181548.73a038c1@posting.google.com, DanGunn at       dan__gunn@hotmail.com wrote on 9/18/04 4:48 PM:              > This is a letter I sent to my church's newsletter, which was promptly       > returned to me with a rejection. I hope the internet community will be       > less judgemental.       >       >       > I had a near death experience involving a huge car accident that I was       > at fault for because I drove the wrong way on the highway. The 4       > people in the other car died, but they were all very elderly and       > probably going to die very soon anyways. I guess I was relieved that a       > young child or a newlywed couple weren't the victims instead. The       > experience itself was amazing because I was thrown from the driver's       > seat and out the opened window, so as I was flying over the ground I       > watched my life go by like I was flying past a great long comic strip.       > There was a white light and an Indian was standing there infront of       > the light and telling me to follow him. Then it got really strange and       > we were in a casino!! So I played some craps and rolled a lucky 11,       > and boom there I was in the grass at the side of the highway with all       > these lights in my face and people around. At that moment I realized       > that everything comes down to pure luck, life is just a dice roll and       > everything is PURE CHANCE. Years of believing in God and Jesus and the       > Ouiju board were just washed down the drain in this moment, which I       > have to say was the best moment of my life.       >       > I served a 2 year stint for manslaughter and now I'm out again ready       > to start my Godless life (which actually started in jail). It's like a       > great weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I've started to go out       > with girls, and we are doing things together I could never of even       > imagined, let alone learn about, during bible study sessions or church       > camps. I always had SOME fun at church camps but not this much fun let       > me tell you. I no longer use the ISP suggested by the church and have       > discovered that they were blocking half the internet sites out there       > and about 80% of the fun. I quit my job at the insurance company and       > now just do odd jobs when I need money, and spend the rest of the time       > at the library reading. Some of my favorite authors are the Marquis de       > Sade, CS Lewis, and Douglas Adams. The way I see it the less work I do       > the better off I am because you are just going to die anyways, and       > that it could happen at anytime: at the drug store during a robbery or       > crusing down the highway on the way to Bingo at the Vetran's Hall.       >       > Life isn't pointless but there isn't a "Great" point to it. We have       > invented our Gods to imagine that our lives are great and important,       > but really they aren't, it's just a shot of the dice towards the end       > of the table. Religion is the arrogance of mankind. Just think about       > it the next time you are bored at church, because not everyone will       > have a near death experience to show them the light, and that is why I       > thought I would share this.       >       > Dan "Snake Eyes" Gunn              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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