From: suzych@swcp.com   
      
   In article , "alice"   
    wrote:   
      
   > "Crowfoot"  wrote in message   
   > news:cj7oij$g5a$1@iruka.swcp.com...   
   > > In article <6E15d.29516$bL1.1407676@news20.bellglobal.com>, "alice"   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > "Crowfoot"  wrote in message   
   > > > news:cj1rl0$dua$1@iruka.swcp.com...   
   > > > > In article ,   
   > > > > kimbawlionATaolDOTcom@127.0.0.1 wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:57:22 -0400, "alice"    
   > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > >yes, i have reason to expect that reincarnation is a reality.   
   > > > > > >i was once visited by a spirit of sorts during a quiet,   
   > > > > > >soul-searching   
   > > > > > >moment   
   > > > > > >spirit of sorts - my apologies but you didn't leave a name!   
   > > > > > >and the entity took me on a bit of a (what i think was a)   
   > > > > > >reincarnational   
   > > > > > >trip   
   > > > > > >in which i ended up getting frightened, at which point he/she/it   
   > let   
   > > > > > >me   
   > > > > > >down   
   > > > > > >easy.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > My first experience out of the ordinary was a trip led by someone   
   > who   
   > > > > > showed up in much the same way. Mine wasn't a reincarnational   
   > trip--I   
   > > > > > didn't get that memory until a couple of years later--but it was   
   > > > > > a   
   > > > > > sort   
   > > > > > of   
   > > > > > vision of "reality", a vision of beauty and light, a knowledge of   
   > the   
   > > > > > interconnectedness of everything, and a loss of my fear of   
   > > > > > dying--which   
   > > > > > really amazed me at the time because I hadn't even been aware of   
   > > > > > it   
   > > > > > and   
   > > > > > how heavy a load it was.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > He didn't leave a name, either. His love was his calling card,   
   > > > > > and   
   > > > > > with   
   > > > > > further experiences I've surmised who he is... someone from my   
   > > > > > past.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > >i was shown/re-lived a life about 150-200 years ago in the area   
   > > > > > >where   
   > > > my   
   > > > > > >ancestors lived, so i am inclined to think it was me.   
   > > > > > >i re-lived the life in an astonishing way, not just from her   
   > > > perspective   
   > > > > > >but from that of everyone involved, all at once.   
   > > > > > >and i am a rather skeptical person, i don't believe anything.   
   > > > > > >i wouldn't have thought it so before, but what is called   
   > > > > > >the akashic records really does seem to exist.   
   > > > > > >at the end of the experience, i saw the person's card,   
   > > > > > >in what seemed to be an endless row of cards.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > I have not seen anything like the Akashic records, so the concept   
   > > > > > is   
   > > > > > still   
   > > > > > strange to me. A great number of people say it's real, and I   
   > > > > > can't   
   > > > > > say   
   > > > > > it's not, but I don't fully "get" it.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Nothing to get; it's just like a gigantic library of all the   
   > everything   
   > > > > that has ever been, and sometimes some people get to do a little   
   > > > > studying there.  Mostly I think we (very sensibly) ignore the place   
   > > > > and/or are not let in because remembering too much would interfere   
   > with   
   > > > > clear perception of the present life and unencumbered   
   > > > > decision-making   
   > > > > here -- too much echo in the chamber to hear the music that's   
   > > > > actually   
   > > > > being played.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > On the other hand, people doing current lives which they have   
   > > > > chosen   
   > to   
   > > > > have active, unscripted spiritual facets apparently make use of   
   > > > > visits   
   > > > > to or from the Akashic plane in the ongoing shaping of the current   
   > > > > life.   
   > > > > We just don't all do that all the time, and in most lifetimes most   
   > > > > of   
   > > > > us   
   > > > > probably don't do it at all.  I think the Akashic records are there   
   > for   
   > > > > consultation *between* lives, when you're thinking about what to   
   > > > > take   
   > > > > on   
   > > > > next -- then, an overview of your own lives and those of others you   
   > > > > often interact with would probably be pretty useful.   
   > > > > --   
   > > > > Crow   
   > > >   
   > > > i'm trying to think what i gained from that experience.   
   > > > it makes me think that we are much more than any   
   > > > one particular life.   
   > > > what we are is not just any particular life or experience.   
   > > > it is really impossible for me to live a life now where   
   > > > i am not influenced by what i have seen.   
   > > > it appears that we have just conveniently forgotten   
   > > > who/what we really are, for the sake of this experience.   
   > > > it is really quite a wonderful and remarkable thing,   
   > > > now i don't think i mind 'forgetting' my self, for the   
   > > > sake of the reward to my self, knowing full well   
   > > > that i am going to awaken from this little journey,   
   > > > having benefited from the experience, in a very   
   > > > profound way, i'm sure we all do to the extent   
   > > > that it may cause a growing awareness in each of us.   
   > > > but it must take so many lives, yet i have heard   
   > > > a story of someone who 'do it all' in one life.   
   > > > that really doesn't seem possible.   
   > >   
   > > Theoretically, I suppose it could happen, but what would be the point?   
   > > I don't think we come here just to touch down and then zip away again,   
   > > never to return, but to take the time to really roam around and   
   > > explore,   
   > > experience, make mistakes, study and learn at our leisure to get the   
   > > full flavor (including the bitter parts) of something that simply is   
   > > not   
   > > available in anywhere else *but* on the physical plane.  We come *here*   
   > > to do *this*, not to escape from doing this -- that's my reading,   
   > > anyway.   
   > > When we're done doing *this*, then we clear off and go do something   
   > > else   
   > > somewhere else that builds on what we've done here, but isn't the same.   
   > >   
   > > I have a friend who can be maneuvered into admitting, in close and   
   > > trusted company, that not only is he and Old Soul, he's an Oldie on his   
   > > last go-round, and that he can remember, when he bothers to, most of   
   > > his previous lives (but why bother, when you get all the "time" you   
   > > need   
   > > to review the whole bunch in detail after this one is over?), and that   
   > > there have been lots -- a couple hundred, I think (he's also leading a   
   > > very low-profile, quiet life this last time, trying not to incur any   
   > > karma that might hold him here for another go-round in which to have to   
   > > come back to pay it off).   
   > >   
   > > That includes a lot of false starts (a round of typhus hits your   
   > > village   
   > > when you're six weeks old, or the Cossacks come through busting babies'   
   > > heads against walls, that kind of thing), and a lot of interruptions (a   
   > > firing squad in Spain for me, last time out, in my early thirties, so I   
   > > came back fast and tried to pick up some of the earlier threads), and   
   > > a few "resting" lives where you just go herd goats for thirty years in   
   > > some hills where nobody fights any battles while you're there.  Think,   
      
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