XPost: alt.consciousness   
   From: Be@Here.Now   
      
   On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:41:39 GMT, "Alan B. Mac Farlane"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Glad you like the sound of it atman ... now please consider of giving it a   
   >go.   
   >   
   >That place of difficulty that you feel inside that you are carring around -   
   >it mixes with your intention in what you are trying to create and you are   
   >doomed to manfiest it.  (after upteen NDEs one learns something on the   
   >otherside talking to those guys - ya think ?)   
   >   
   >The difficulty - the confusion - the lack of knowledge are all based in fear   
   >- same for anger, hate, contempt, doubt, and all the other so called   
   >negative emotions ... are all in fear.   
   >   
   >The positive emotions - all solutions - are found in knowledge and that   
   >knowledge is love.   
   >   
   >Love is not love - love is not an emotion - same for fear - fear is not an   
   >emotion - Love and Fear are states of mind - ways of being and becoming -   
   >because they are held inside about a problem that is out there.   
   >   
   >I hope you have been able to wrap your mind around this intellectual   
   >discussion about the emotional IQ and using the emotional compass to change   
   >things inside - so that the outside is change - improved - this is the basis   
   >for all creativity - IMO and all that rot.   
   >   
   >Give it a go - Atman - put love inside - ask your higher power to put love   
   >inside where the doubt or the difficulty is and keep doing it until it goes   
   >away - usually hurts and only take 2 mintues if you are on it and working   
   >it.  Then it is better and the solution appears.   
   >   
   >Really - give it a go.  See if it works for you - and if you dont like it -   
   >you can always ask your higher power to put the difficulty back in you are   
   >carring around - the fear back - the anger back in - the confusion back in   
   >and screw up your life and future.   
   >   
   >As you speak so shall you become ... as you think so shall you be.   
   >   
   >The system of things is very giving like that ... so not to worry.   
   >   
   >All my best.   
   >   
   >Alan   
   >   
      
   I follow much the same path now, but from a slightly different   
   perspective.  I've had the experience, both at my NDE and a few times   
   since then, of what I would call complete unity with all or total   
   Oneness.  This could be described as Love, but not in the sense of   
   emotional or romantic Love either.  Love in the context that any hint   
   of separateness is illusionary.  Total, complete, oneness; returning   
   to the original Self; non-duality; the great homecoming, but suddenly   
   realizing that I had never left at all.  I was always there.   
   Attention had just shifted focus, and the illusion that I was a just   
   an ego/persona in a body captured attention.   
      
   We are manifest consciousness with an ego, persona, body, and etc..   
   And at the same we are beyond time/space.  We are the One Self.  It's   
   been said, "I and the Father are One", well, we All are One.   
      
   It is what I said was hard to describe.  The Tao Te Ching says that   
   "the Tao that can be spoken, is not the true Tao".  Or in other words,   
   the description of the experience, can never fully convey the   
   experience itself.  It is beyond words, transcendent.   
      
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   I am That,   
   you are That,   
   all this is That,   
   That's all there is.   
      
   --- old Vedic saying   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)