XPost: alt.consciousness   
   From: alanb@sonic.net   
      
   oh never mind - it would not be of any help to you any way ...   
      
   good luck solving your problem ...   
      
   did my best ...   
      
   sumbuddie who cares   
      
   :)   
      
      
   in article ud1ro0dno873caavg0580b4ahl7unh0i76@4ax.com, Atman at Be@Here.Now   
   wrote on 11/6/04 7:09 PM:   
      
   >   
   > I follow much the same path now, but from a slightly different   
   > perspective.  I've had the experience, both at my NDE and a few times   
   > since then, of what I would call complete unity with all or total   
   > Oneness.  This could be described as Love, but not in the sense of   
   > emotional or romantic Love either.  Love in the context that any hint   
   > of separateness is illusionary.  Total, complete, oneness; returning   
   > to the original Self; non-duality; the great homecoming, but suddenly   
   > realizing that I had never left at all.  I was always there.   
   > Attention had just shifted focus, and the illusion that I was a just   
   > an ego/persona in a body captured attention.   
   >   
   > We are manifest consciousness with an ego, persona, body, and etc..   
   > And at the same we are beyond time/space.  We are the One Self.  It's   
   > been said, "I and the Father are One", well, we All are One.   
   >   
   > It is what I said was hard to describe.  The Tao Te Ching says that   
   > "the Tao that can be spoken, is not the true Tao".  Or in other words,   
   > the description of the experience, can never fully convey the   
   > experience itself.  It is beyond words, transcendent.   
      
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