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|    Roger Ruffner to All    |
|    Re: If all this psychic stuff is real th    |
|    29 Jan 05 20:09:07    |
      XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.paranormal.reincarnation       From: rgrentcom@kcnet.com              > ...we would have no missing persons as the psychic/remote viewer would be       > able to tell us where they're at or buried. We have millions of missing       > persons, so all this is just delusional thinking from those that cannot       > accept reality.              Since its part of what is being argued here, there aren't 'millions' of       missing persons. There are millions of dead bodies that are being 'missed'       and their souls know exactly where their 'being-ness' is (not here), and a       few 100,000 missing (still living) persons, worldwide. This is an important       fact to a later point. Among the 'missing dead' I'd guesstimate that very       few are of sufficient emotional/spiritual energy to effect a desired       transition between 'here' and 'there' for the purpose of communicating with       loved ones.              Creating a psychic connection to the living is difficult enough for psychics       of any useful degree. To create a psychic connection to persons no longer       on the physical plane is more difficult. The creation of any ongoing       psychic connection in which useful (i.e. - physical world applicable data)       information is gained is extremely difficult in the best of circumstances.              The attachment between two minds, one of which has passed on, presents       unique difficulties in understanding and communications. Different       cultures, personalities, perceptions, experiences, times (not just       calendar/clock time but subjective time rates too), all of these abide to       interfere with psychic communication.              When those that die, die, they lose their connection to their body. Thus so       many bodies that are unfound because there is no link to them anymore. And,       those that pass on, pass into a different place where they try to       learn/remember how to get around; ongoing human physical interactions have       suddenly become incredibly less important and necessary. For example, when       we use the capacity of speech, a huge amount of energy transferred       "in-system" which doesn't happen on the other side.              Our will/awareness (soul) which is attached to our body wants to say "Hi" to       another soul. The will moves the energy and the awareness directs it. The       energy transfers from brain cells and breath to muscles and timing. The       mouth begins to open, the breath pushes out, the vocal cords engage, and the       vibration passes into the world, into the air for anyone to hear; the       intended soul may or may not get the message because their "meat" is       involved. The vibration in the air acts against the passive ear drums,       which vibrate that energy into impulses which eventually make it to the       brain.              A filter there clicks in and may/may not allow the message to pass to the       awareness; if you are already known to the soul behind the brain, the       vibration of that energy will be the key and slip past the filter. The       awareness recognizes the voice pattern, its timbre and pitch and timing, as       well as the overall environment in which it hears it and additionally the       context in which it is accepted WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLY HUGE AMOUNT OF       PROCESSING ENERGY.              When you pass to the other side, the will and awareness possess       instantaneous perfect mind-to-mind communication, no meat involved. So it       becomes a huge hassle to continue to deal with the meat world.              Granted there are some dispossesed souls that can refuse to pass, who       'hang-out' for whatever reason, trying to connect to the meat-world, to gain       justice, vengeance, parity/fairness, whatever. Generally, these souls are       misunderstanding their current place in their ongoing spiritual evolution       (usually because of religious upbringing - but that is another argument for       another time).              These are the very few lost souls (I'd guess only about a couple hundred       around the entire planet at any given moment) that true psychics tend to       'pick up'. And, true psychics tend to be older souls, more concerned with       aiding the lost soul to find their place in their current environment, not       to help them with the meat world unless that is absolutely necessary to the       ongoing well-being of other still-enfleshed souls. (John Edwards, case in       point)              The movies/television aside, the world of the 'dead' does not continually       attempt to encroach upon the world of the living. On the other side, THE       MEAT WORLD IS CONSIDERED EXTREEEEEEMMMMEEELLLY BORING. But its the only       place where we can act upon and test our ongoing evolution. Evolution here       is evolution there.              My two cents, Saturday, 8PM, somewhere in the Americas.              Rog              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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