From: alanb@sonic.net   
      
   ya Joe ... i have been around.   
      
   the first few NDEs I had ... were not that great ... but it did keep my   
   interest.   
      
   as I got better (healed up my PTSD issues), stoped living in fear and did   
   the work of living in love.   
      
   the NDEs got better.   
      
   it is all a projection.   
      
   one of my buddies was a devout koolaid kristian ...   
      
   she had an NDE before she went over to the other side, and she still was a   
   christian ... just stoped being koolaid about.   
      
   much better person after wards.   
      
   some people get a good look at death and change.   
      
   others do not get that good look and they live in fear ever after.   
      
   until more information comes in later on ...   
      
   of course.   
      
   time it different on the other side.   
      
   it stops.   
      
   I call it the Eternal Now.   
      
   eternally deep and eternally tall ...   
      
   just Now.   
      
   whoops ... you missed it.   
      
   it went on past.   
      
   there is now another Now.   
      
   it is that quick ... but ever so deep.   
      
   just refuse to live in fear.   
      
   do the work of living in love.   
      
   wake up in the dream time.   
      
   you will be okey - big time okey.   
      
   IMO and all that rot.   
      
   sumbuddie wear blind sea   
      
   :)   
      
      
   in article 12g1628nv24tqc0@corp.supernews.com, Joe at abc@xyz.org wrote on   
   9/7/06 3:08 PM:   
      
   > Well, I dunno- it's certainly a fascinating subject.   
   >   
   > In recent years I've seen a number of people near death- none looked   
   > pleased, regardless of their religion or philosophy. So I can only conclude   
   > that for most people, the experience sucks.   
   >   
   > I have read books on the subject, years ago, but can't remember their   
   > titles- and I found in one book a list of "last words" of some well known   
   > people - most were interesting if not entertaining- one guy said he never   
   > felt so good.   
   >   
   > I've checked out this newsgroup several times over the years and I recall   
   > seeing your name.   
   >   
   > Joe   
      
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