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   Message 2,178 of 2,497   
   Crowfoot to Ssam   
   Re: WHO AND WHAT IS GOD ? (1/2)   
   09 Sep 06 12:06:50   
   
   From: pagemail@swcp.com   
      
   In article ,   
    "Ssam"  wrote:   
      
   >  From "True Gospel Revealed Anew by Jesus", Vol. I, page 59   
   >   WHO AND WHAT IS GOD ?   
   >   
   >   I AM HERE. Jesus.   
   >   
   >   I have been with you as you prayed, and joined in your prayer to the   
   > Father for the inflowing of His Great Love into your soul in great   
   > abundance; and I know that His Holy Spirit is present and that His love is   
   > flowing into your soul, and that you are becoming in at-onement with the   
   > Father. His love will always come to you when you pray as you have tonight,   
   > and His listening ear is always open to the earnest aspirations of His   
   > children who come to him with the true longings of the soul. You have the   
   > secret of reaching the Father's love, and on all occasions, when you feel   
   > that you need that Love or desire a nearness to the Father, use the secret   
   > and you will not be disappointed.   
   >   
   >   You are in better condition tonight in your soul development and   
   > perceptions and can receive my message which I have desired for sometime to   
   > communicate, and to do which I was waiting only for you to be in a complete   
   > rapport with me.   
   >   
   >   Well, you will remember, that in the early stages of our writings, I   
   > communicated to you my knowledge and conception of "who and what God is,"   
   > and that I have recently told you that I desired to rewrite the message, as   
   > your condition is now so much better to receive these truths than it was   
   > when the message was written; and so, tonight, I will deliver the message,   
   > and will take a more complete possession of your brain and control of your   
   > hand than I was able to do at the time mentioned.   
   >   
   >   Then the question is: Who and What is God?   
   >   
   >   In dealing with this question, you must realize that it is not so easy to   
   > describe in language that mortals can comprehend the Essence and Attributes   
   > of God, and I feel the limitations that I am under in endeavoring to give   
   > you a satisfactory description of the only and true God; not because of the   
   > paucity of knowledge and conception on my part, but because of the fact that   
   > you have not the required soul development to enable me to form the   
   > necessary rapport with you, in order that through your brain, may be   
   > expressed the exact truth as to who the Father is.   
   >   
   >   WELL, TO BEGIN, GOD IS SOUL, AND SOUL IS GOD. NOT THE SOUL THAT IS IN THE   
   > CREATED MAN, BUT THE SOUL THAT IS DEITY AND SELF-EXISTENT, WITHOUT BEGINNING   
   > OR ENDING, AND WHOSE ENTITY IS THE ONE GREAT FACT IN THE UNIVERSE OF BEING.   
   >   
   >   God is without form, such as has been conceived of by man in nearly all   
   > ages, and especially by those who believe in the Bible of the Hebrews as   
   > well as in that of the Christians. But nevertheless, He is of form, which   
   > only the soul perceptions of the soul of a man which has arrived at a   
   > certain degree of development, that is taken on the Divine nature of the   
   > Father and thus become a part of the Soul of God, can discern and realize as   
   > an entity. There is nothing in all nature with which men are acquainted or   
   > have knowledge of, that can be used to make a comparison, even in the spirit   
   > perceptions, with this Great Soul; and hence, for men to conceive of God as   
   > having a form in any manner resembling that of man, is all erroneous; and   
   > those who, in their beliefs and teachings, deny the anthropomorphic God, are   
   > correct.   
   >   
   >   But, nevertheless, God is of form such as to give him an entity and   
   > Substance and seat of habitation, in contradistinction to that God which, in   
   > the teachings of some men, is said to be everywhere in this Substance and   
   > entity--in the trees and rocks, and thunder and lightning, and in men and   
   > beasts, and in all created things, and in whom men are said to live and move   
   > and have their being. No, this concept of God is not in accord with the   
   > truth, and it is vital to the knowledge and salvation of men that such   
   > conception of God be not entertained or believed in.   
   >   
   >   To believe that God is without form is to believe that he is a mere force   
   > or principle or nebulous power, and, as some say, the resultant of laws;   
   > which laws, as a fact, He has established for the controlling of His   
   > universe of creation, and which are expressed to men by these very powers   
   > and principles, that to some extent, they can comprehend.   
   >   
   >   The child has asked: "Who made God?" And because the wise men cannot   
   > answer that question, in their wisdom, they conclude and assert that there   
   > can be no real God of personality or soul form, and, hence, only force,   
   > principle or evolved laws can be God; and in their own conceit think that   
   > they have solved the question. But the child may not be satisfied with the   
   > answer, and may ask the wise men: "Who made principle and force and laws   
   > that must be accepted as the only God?" And then, the wise men cannot   
   > answer, unless they answer: "God," which they do not believe, but which let   
   > me say, is the true and only answer.   
   >   
   >   God is back of force and principle and law, which are only expressions of   
   > His being, and which without Him could not exist; and they are only   
   > existences, changeable, dependent and subject to the will of God, who only,   
   > is Being.   
   >   
   >   GOD THEN, IS SOUL, AND THAT SOUL HAS ITS FORM, PERCEPTIBLE ONLY TO ITSELF,   
   > OR THAT OF MAN, WHICH, BY REASON OF THE SUFFICIENT POSSESSION OF THE VERY   
   > SUBSTANCE OF THE GREAT SOUL HAS BECOME LIKE UNTO GOD, NOT IN IMAGE ONLY, BUT   
   > IN VERY ESSENCE. We spirits of the highest soul progression are enabled by   
   > our soul perceptions to see God and His form. But here, I use the words   
   > 'see" and 'form," as being the only words that I can use to give mortals a   
   > comparative conception of what I am endeavoring to describe.   
   >   
   >   When it is remembered that mortals can scarcely conceive of the form of   
   > the spirit body of a man, which is composed or formed of the material of the   
   > universe, though not usually accepted to be of the material, it will be   
   > readily seen that it is hardly possible for me to convey to them a faint   
   > idea even of the Soul form of God, which is composed of that which is purely   
   > spiritual--that is, not of the material, even though to the highest degree   
   > sublimated.   
   >   
   >   And although I am not able because of the limitations mentioned, to   
   > describe to men that form which they may glean a conception of the Soul's   
   > form--as such form can be seen only with the soul's eye, which eyes men do   
   > not possess--it must not be believed that because men cannot understand or   
   > perceive the truth of the Soul's form, therefore, it is not a truth. A   
   > truth, truth of the Soul's form, therefore, it is not a truth. A TRUTH,   
   > THOUGH NOT CONCEIVED OR PERCEIVED BY MEN, SPIRITS OR ANGELS, IS STILL A   
   > TRUTH, AND ITS EXISTENCE DOES NOT DEPEND UPON ITS BEING KNOWN; AND EVEN   
      
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